So it has been a slightly weird couple of days. On a total lark when feelin’ fine after potatoes, I took on a grin, sucked it up, and emailed Anthony Colpo. …Listen, I’ve had a bit of fun with a couple of posts in the past on the subject, and Mike Eades is a friend of mine, and all of that…but I’ve been peeking at some of the stuff Anthony has been writing lately, and if I were to deny what I consider to be the enormous sanity in so much of it, then who loses? Who’s being cheated? I have a rather large nose and I’ll keep it, thank you very much.
So here’s anthony’s post that in part, incorporates my email to him.
…He’s certainly not advocating carrying around a thermometer in your pocket protector to measure your body temperature at all times. Nor is he advising you to eat the very foods that made you fat, gave you elevated BP and a host of other problems necessitating pharmaceutical intervention in the first place in order to “heal.”
Which brings me to Matt Stone and his soon to be published book, 12 Paleo Myths: Eat Better Than a Caveman (bad publicity is better than no publicity, Matt; so, with my compliments…). And I guess, judging by the section of the book he excerpts, cavemen actually had a tough time getting it up. Who knows? Perhaps that’s the best argument for God yet devised. Divine intervention. …Perhaps that’s where the oh, God…God…yes, God….oh, YES….comes from.
You can dismiss all of the Paleo anecdotes about “morning wood,” increased libido, and certainly all of Robb Wolf’s “Paleo Babies” (don’t take that the wrong way). Yep, Matt read a nutrition book once. He reads Ray Peat. He has a holster and trusty thermometer. He whips it out at conferences (the thermometer).
OK, so perhaps Matt needs another few bucks and since eating pizza, burgers, and ice cream has run its course, maybe it’s time to sign up for a currently running “Paleo Summit,” where I’m sure all the guys presenting at Sean Croxton’s invitation were well aware and A-OK that a co-presenter was going to insinuate that they probably suffer from erectile dysfunction—not to mention deluded by 11 other myths.
You can’t even make this shit up. Croxton is either easily duped, doesn’t look into shit adequately, or lacks a modicum of deference to the the other presenters giving of their time. Who doesn’t know what Stone is about? Dr. Kurt Harris in my comments, just this afternoon:
If Matt Stone were a weatherman, you would find that he had correctly predicted 12 of the last 3 big storms.
Anyway, so in the comments of Stone’s post to peddle his book tearing down paleo for its lack of pizza, ice cream…and thermometers…in advance of his participation in a “Paleo Summit,” we have this comment by someone really honestly searching. He heard Ston’e presentation at the “Paleo Summit” and does not quite seem to be fooled.
Matt, I am a more recent Paleo eater and was turned on to your site just today from your Paleo Summit presentation. Though I admit I was pious and zealous when I first started the lifestyle, I am more interested in long-term health and well-being than in joining a systemic way of thinking just for community sake. That’s why I appreciate your alternative POV and, though it makes me flinch, your research.
However, I have to say this, just in the same way that you purport that the Paleo “gurus” being blinded by their own desire to market their belief system, which makes me distrustful of them, believe me, I am equally distrustful of you because you tell me that my understanding of why eating the way I do is setting myself up for failure is just a purchase of your book away.
I have as little interest in buying your book as I do Robb Wolf’s. I have a couple of simple questions for you: Are you really telling me that eating “paleo” is a bad idea, or that the mentality of paleo causes people to become stunted in their thinking, thusly getting them into similar dysfunctional, non-forward moving ruts as pre-paleo eating? I like to think of myself as self-reflective; I started too low carb for my lean body type and have been adding in more and more starches and fruits ever since I realized that I was losing weight, which obviously wasn’t healthy for me. Are you really saying that eating something like pizza can and should be okay for me, even though I used to feel like crap when I ate it before, and have since felt like crap eating it post-paleo?
To me, paleo isn’t about eating like a caveman, it’s about not eating garbage. I’m sorry if a lot of your readers have a hard time changing their way of thinking; that not eating modern-day crap is somehow a huge detriment to everything about living, but, come on, how are we ever going to grow as a people if we just accept the paradigm as the way it is and not look at systemic changes away from crappy eating? In other words, I have a very hard time with the idea that eating comfortable foods like cake and ice cream and staying fat is fine as long as we get our metabolisms in order. When are we, as a people, going to stop being such whiny babies about eating comfortably and staying fat (while self-loathing) and admitting that bad food is bad food? In my opinion, we will with movements like Paleo, that challenge that coddled mindset. In my opinion, not challenging ourselves to do better (i.e. eat better) is making us weaker mentally. Why work for your food (grow it, nurture it, prepare it, enjoy it) when you can have it instantly handed to you and it makes you temporarily feel good? To me, even though it’s becoming a religion, things like paleo challenge that very basic victim mentality and make us stronger. But then, of course, it’s up to us individually to seek out what’s best for us and continually challenge ourselves further to be self-reflective and growing. But no, why do that when we have “gurus” like you and Robb Wolf that can hold our hands through the brush?
Another question: If fat doesn’t make us fat, and carb-intake doesn’t spike insulin, thusly making us fat, what the hell makes us fat? Do I need to buy your book to find out? I admit I haven’t had the chance to dig through your site much yet – and I will – but I just have a hard time with sales pitches; I feel that you can’t trust anyone who stands to make money off of you.
I’m sure that your book was the logical stop in consolidating the information that you researched along with the stories on your site, but, like I said, how can you expect me to trust you any more than Robb or Mark Sisson? You all seem to have the “answers,” I just need to buy the book.
I have no desire to adhere to any one philosophy, I just want to be healthy in a sustainable way.
Don’t get me wrong, if I were as smart and savvy as you guys, I would want to sell a book about my brilliant ideas too. But you say right here on your blog that you have no intentions of marketing yourself like paleo does. Yet look at all the products you have.
Please don’t take this as attacking; I feel that, in the same vein of you, and other alternative thinkers like you, feeling that you need to keep movements like Paleo in check, it’s people like me that aren’t out to subscribe to any one thing need to keep you in check as well.
Honestly, all I’m really looking for is some clarification of your summit presentation because you said a lot that obviously flies in the face of what I’ve been doing thus far, and since I’m only looking to stay healthy, I just want to know what the best way to do that is. I’ll take a look around the site, for starters.
Well, for what it’s worth, I disagree with those who are pessimistic over the future. This sort of thing as well as the comments in my latest post, are a good sign.
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For what it is worth I think Colpo is a good guy.
I always say good beats nice any day. So I agree. I have found little on his blog to disagree with other than his hyperventilating style, which is just a matter of taste.
His cholesterol book is outstanding and I believe it antedates GCBC for publication date.
The most charitable (i hope I haven’t lost you here) reading of Stone is that he caters to people who did not have chronic medical issues prior to low-carbing or some variety of paleo–such that once he told them to not be neurotic about the foods they want to eat, all their subjective measures of well-being improved. I only have about 15 lbs to lose (and it is quite stubborn) so I tried LC, no-grain, no-dairy, every combination of carb-phobic dietary approach out there but the utility for a vanity dieter, like myself, is just not there. No progress and after a month of restrictive dieting, no improvements in workouts. Also, what’s your beef with Croxton? I think Daniel shows that newbs are not necessarily sheeple. Stone is the only prankster in the whole line-up (unless you count Kruse.)
It’s hyperbole in Croxton’s case. I’m just pissed at him for not seeing something like this coming. Stone has been antagonistic to Paleo, so at least it should have been couched as such. That said, I’m assuming a bit because I don’t know what went on behind the scenes.
Croxton wasn’t duped. It was planned that way. Maybe for entertainment? This was in the schedule long before the summit started:
“Matt Stone Debunks The Paleo Diet
Is the Paleo diet a short-term fix? Are there any long-term side effects stemming from this way of eating? Matt Stone thinks so. Find out why Matt believes that claims regarding carb-induced insulin resistance are no more than a “scientific fairy tale”. And learn how Matt has been able to help people recover their health on a diet high in starches — sometimes with grains and refined sugars!”
That our paleolithic ancestors had a hard time getting it up is quite laughable. Just that pretty much calls Stone’s entire paradigm into question.
I for one can also vouch for the fact that I started getting the “morning wood” every morning for basically the first time since my teenage years when I first switched to a paleo diet.
“I for one can also vouch for the fact that I started getting the “morning wood” every morning for basically the first time since my teenage years when I first switched to a paleo diet.”
Me too, or, 2am wood. For a few years, now. I’m 51. My dad, 74, testifies to the same thing but I don’t want to hear anything about it. :)
Richard, I left the following comment on Stone’s site in response to a post about the benefits of Frosted Flakes:
“This site is pure gold. ‘Exit Through the Gift Shop’ is jealous the combination of hoax and acolytes that Mr. Stone has produced. He roped everyone a ways back with his indictment of zero-carb, and has used that reputation as a thoughtful contrarian to become PT Barnum. In this present incarnation, he includes a sprinkling of legitimate posts among absurd ones like this so as to throw everyone off the scent.
“But even in doing that, he posts videos and pictures of himself looking absolutely awful—which just heightens the ruse and forces his minions to double-down (“his body is just fixing itself with puffed rice after years of being ravaged by consuming grass-fed veal liver!”). I only hit this site every couple months, and every time I do, I leave with a smile. I look forward to Casey Affleck shooting the documentary.”
Ha. Laf.
Richard, I just browsed Colpo’s recent post on “Inescapable Reality of Calories in Fat Loss.” Is that post indicative of his thinking and writing in other areas? He should read the December 28, 2011 NYTimes Mag article “The Fat Trap.” Although the science is sketchy, it’s the most profound piece I’ve read on the absolute insanity and human toll of approaching fat loss with an “eat less, exercise more” paradigm. For all the studies that Colpo cites, he should be aware of the 95% long-term failure rate of dieters who follow what he seems to believe (again, only from my browsing of that one post) is the only way to lose fat. Take a deep breath and step out of 1970 and into 2012, sir.
[Richard, the last line was directed at Colpo, not you.]
RickB:
Eat Less Exercise More is wrong headed. Right headed is palatability, in my view and I am really seeing this after three days because potatoes only go so far. But I’ll probably have some tonight.
The reason a real food paleo diet works, provided you stick to simple preparations is that they can become a little mundane and boring, making it easier to have something better to do than eat.
this is also the same reason i cannot convince anyone to stay on it. it is too boring and repetitive and simple…it doesnt get the brain-gasm of SAD food. I cant even try and explain it to people that it is just food. watching people kill themselves is annoying when they just will not love themselves enough to change. i work with like 15-20 diabetics…severe diabetics, with heart problems. their morning BS is out of this world( i ask every morning..)
what they wont do is anything about it. they need sweet. its mardis gras and they are all eating fucking king cake every single day. if anyone know s about king cake its the epitomy of braingasm of food. 4 of the 15 to 20 are now in the hospital. wtf i get so frustrated at this. i cant fix stupid, and i cant make people have respect for themselves and thei health if they just dont care. sorry, rant isnt even relevant… but your comment sparked because its just so easy, its free medically, its cheap…and no one does it. at least in the dirty fatty south
Mallory, halle-fuckin-lujah! Finally someone gets where I’m coming from. You and I are on the same page and it’s so comforting to know I’m not alone in this mentality. The only reason that Matt Stone struck such a cord with me is this whole idea that it’s harder to control your eating, so you might as well find a way to make eating anything work. That’s the dumbest logic I’ve ever heard, but it’s the norm. People are so weak and coddled by our culture and instant gratification of “food” that they don’t even see what they’re doing to themselves. And Matt’s capitalizing on that.
And I hear you on the diabetic thing. Taking it further, I was even more miffed at Matt Stone for calling paleo eaters fools for assuming that carb intake affects insulin. I lived with a high carb, low fat-eating diabetic for 4 years and watched her inject two kinds of insulin 4 times daily (sometimes after each meal) just to keep her spiking insulin in check (which never went well, unfortunately). I get that it’s oversimplifying the matter to reduce obesity and diabetes to this one causal factor, but just from my personal experience (and yours too, sounds like), I just have no reason to believe that eating lots of carbs is ever good for anyone.
Rick
GREAT points. Colpo’s obesity information is outright very wrong, not at all congruent with Dr. Linda Bacon, Dr. Douglas Coleman, Dr. Arya Sharma – real experts who are FAR more knowledgeable on the literature. The scientific literature does INDEED say that dieting is a complete failure. Only 1% or less will succeed after a decade- and even less once you pass the decade mark.
The scientific literature clearly indicates that voluntary factprs are of extremely limited potency to affect body weight long term. This si not at all comngruent with Colpo’s FALSE claims .
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(There is something different about obese poeple which results in obesity INDEPENDENTLY of caloric intake. Bariatric surgery results strongly imply this. Patients are clinically obese STILL with average BMI’s of about 32 to 30 on only 1,000 calories).
LOVE your 2012 comment- LOVE IT! LOL ! Obesity research is nto the only thing that guy has misrepresented: *women and coronary artery disease, *alcohol and heart diseae, * iron hyypothesis and he refuses to acknowledge Dr Steven Nissen and Dr Daniel rader’s excellent research of ” HDL Apo1 A Milano” – the futire of heart disease. Phenomenal results in 2003 study. Coronary plaque reduced by 8% volume in only 5 weeks .
i think it is extremely disingenuous of Colpo to link to Stephan , as if they share the same beliefs. Colpo does not at all acknowledge the biologic system which counts calories for us.
Stephan knows better. He understands calories matter smatter, but the problem is that we do not have control over energy balance to anywhere near the degree salesmen like Colpo say.
Stephan is well aware that NEURAL CIRCUITRY is in control of enery homeostasis long term. Colpo is 100 % an undereducated crank crackpot with an enlarged ego and PROFOUND lack of understanding of basic biology. I woud not pay 3 cents for any of his books- especially the fat loss book.
Take it from me ( and Muata Kamdibe) Both of us have been BURNED by Colpo shadily.. I have dealt with him for years.
Since it is Richard’s blog, that is all I will say.
It makes no sense to think in terms of time spans like decades.
Calories count. Nobody left Dachau overfat from all the carb-filled gruel, stress hormone-skyrocketing labor and genocide. They’re all notorious for “making you fat” (save the genocide) but the people who got out were bone thin…because calories count. There are a lot of moving parts, no doubt, but if lean is your game keep an eye on your intake.
I agree that calories count. There are two thought experiments involving food quality and calories.
One, where identical twins eat 3,000 calories a day, one of grass-fed ruminant, wild salmon, tubers, and veggies, and the other of canola oil and HFCS. I think that would disprove Colpo’s post.
The other is identical twins eating either 1,000 calories a day or 5,000 calories a day of the identical diet. I think that would disprove the idea that calories don’t count.
But there’s an entire world in between, which is Skyler’s point, I think, and which I agree with. But if I had to roll with one or the other, I’d go with food quality over calories for fat loss [again, “The Fat Trap” is really powerful in bringing the human toll of calorie counting home]. And I think everyone would be much better off if they did too.
RickB:
Yes, I do think there’s a Newtonian/Einstienian aspect to it in that in the normal practice of things it really is about energy balance (well, we’re always in balance, it’s just that sometimes it takes fat moving way into or way out of cells to keep it so – weight gain/loss) and there’s no real surpasses. But at the extremes things could get weird. I don’t know by how much but I’ll bet a 3k cal diet by one identical twin eating normally and the other exclusively by soy oil or something might have surprising results. I’m guessing it could be attributed to hormonal disregulation as a result of micro nutrient deficiency in the latter.
I generally agree with everything you’ve stated. I look at all of the arguments as people talking past each other, steeped in a point of view for whatever reason, some far worse than others. Context matters and the course of action depends on it.
“One, where identical twins eat 3,000 calories a day, one of grass-fed ruminant, wild salmon, tubers, and veggies, and the other of canola oil and HFCS. I think that would disprove Colpo’s post.”
Oh, noes. Not that old chestnut again.
Where weight is concerned, calories count. The two twins have the same weight.
Where health is concerned, food quality counts. The second diet lacks protein, amongst other things. The second twin ends up dead.
Can we all have a group hug, now?
In fairness to the example, Nigel, I. Think he’s talking in the short term, not long enough for micro or macro nutrient deficiencies to result in death.
I still believe that the two twins would weigh the same (give or take a bit of glycogen & water weight) in the short & medium-term if they have the same calories in and the same calories out.
I’m pretty sure that Leibel et al did a metabolic ward trial where P was held at 15%, and C & F were varied hugely with no effect on weight.
The point isn’t altering carbs and fat; it’s altering food quality. The entire essence of the paleo movement is a real food one: Rejecting modern, processed, artificial, Frankenfood garbage with real, living food–macronutrient ratios and calorie counting be damned.
And it isn’t about weight; it’s about lean tissue (muscle and organ mass) vs. fat tissue. The focus on weight instead of fat has always been the great red herring of diet studies. If anything, the deleterious rebound effects of rapid weight loss (both fat and lean tissue) and the micronutrient deficiencies that accompany it should stop the emphasis on weight instead of body composition.
Finally, in today’s Paleo Summit presentation, Mat Lalonde said: “First you have to look at food quality, then you have to look at calories.” That sums up my point much better than I have been doing.
If weight loss is slow, it’s all bodyfat loss (unless the diet is totally retarded like the zero protein one you mentioned above). To lose weight, there must be a caloric deficit.
As Lyle McDonald says “Given adequate protein & EFAs, you can get cut on table sugar”. Once the essentials have been covered, it doesn’t matter where the rest of the calories come from*.
* Except for people who have impaired blood glucose control. When normal blood glucose control is restored, it doesn’t matter.
I’ve just about seen that experiment in my twin nieces. One is a meat eater. The other is vegetarian/vegan since early high school.
I’ll let ya’ll guess which one is shorter, weaker and pale as compared to the other one. I worry about her sometimes.
I’m sorry, Dave. That would keep me awake at nights for sure.
The meat eater?? Tell me!
As far as I can tell from reading Colpo’s book ” The Fat Loss Bible”,a short summation of what he advocates the following:
1. Eat healthy and natural foods. Keep grains, HFCS, and processed foods to a minimum
2. Exercise instead of sitting on your ass all day
3. Match your calories and carbs to your activity level
4. Get enough quality protein to support your body
5. Get the rest of your calories from healthy fats
6. Get quality sleep every night
7. Take a good multi-vitamin, especially vitamin D
I can’t disagree with any of this because I’ve done similar things and it’s worked great for me. Some people dislike Colpo because he can be a bit caustic at times, but keep in mind that he gets flack for what he says on a regular basis from both the low carb and CW people since he takes a middle ground stance.
Everybody has an agenda, you just have to make sure the source’s agenda matches yours. My agenda? Increased availability of high quality non CAFO meats and full fat real foods. I don’t give half a flying fuck whether you fill yourself up on cheap pizza or cake as long as I can still get the food I want.
Wrap your minds around this, a comment on that post of stone’s in reply to the comment in the post:
180degreehealth.com/2012/02/paleo-myths#comment-57187
“Ice cream, pizza, breakfast cereal, etc… would be for people with very bad digestion, starting with refined processed food will allow for the person to assimilate calories and help boost the metabolism. People coming off paleo that are not having issues with digestion should stick to whole foods, whole starches, unrefined sugars, animal proteins, saturated fats… focusing mostly on carbs and then more carbs. But even healthy people should enjoy ice cream or cereal… don’t tell me that you didn’t like this stuff as a kid, and it didn’t make you smile! Just don’t pound it for 3 meals a day! There is no voodoo here, or some secret answer in the books. Eat food to raise your body temperature (boost metabolism). If you feel well, lift heavy things, sprint, swim, play, sun tan, hobbies, etc…”
So, if you’re “coming off” real foods, eat crap, then go back to real foods.
“Eat food to raise your body temperature (boost metabolism).”
This is the part that is pure pseudoscience that Stone has never let go of. “Boosting metabolism” beyond getting out of the extreme VLC range pseudo-starvation range, is 100% woo bullshit.
Broda Barnes thought all heart disease was caused by “low metabolism” and he was full of shit too.
Other than in extreme cases, no endocrinologist uses body temperature alone to diagnose clinical hypothyroidism for a very good reason. It’s woo. That is the reason.
And the reason real doctors don’t use body temp to diagnose “low metabolism” is the same as why they don’t diagnose “adrenal fatigue” or :”candida” – because these are like chakras and crystals and meridians -they are purely faddish internet diagnoses that are not real diseases. They are useful concept only to sell crap to gullible people.
Like^2 Dr Harris, except for magical crystals that give me wood.
Came for the nutrition talk, stayed for the penis jokes.
Hey Dr. Harris,
Body temp being the be-all-end-all in health is a straw man (who’s saying this?). It’s a something to be considered, like pulse, or extensive lab work.
Feeling frigid all the time is worst symptom I, and many of my readers, have ever encountered.
Maybe it’s how Stone has portrayed body temperature’s connection to health, but “100% woo bullshit”? That’s ridiculous.
No, trying to jack up your body temp when it is already normal by overeating is ridiculous.
I never said low body temperature was preferred or never happens, did I?
I said those like stone who say high or low metabolism is defined by body temperature and the higher the better, that is nonsense.
Those who say that you are hypothyroid based SOLELY on body temp with normal labs (barnes and stone have both said this) are wrong.
If my observations don’t apply to you, then why be upset?
@Dr. Harris,
Nah, I’m not upset.
Richard has poked fun at the concept a couple of times on this site. I interpreted your comment to be in support of the same mindset.
Would your feelings be different if “metabolism” was replaced with “thyroid”?
Hi Danny
Not really.
I have no doubt that the body tries to protect itself by lowering metabolic processes when threatened by starvation – low calories or very low carb. This situation should be avoided by not starving yourself of either calories or carbs.
But Stone’s idea that you “fix” your metabolism by overeating enough to raise your blood temperature – raising it beyond an already normal level- is nonsense.
If your temp rises beyond normal, your body is just trying to dump calories, not “heal” your metabolism.
You will “heal” your way to diabetes eating with that philosophy. Energy excess is energy excess.
As far as “thyroid”, when metabolism slows down as a defense mechanism, that is not hypothyroidism -that is normal physiology even if you are cold as a result. Hypothyroidism should be a term reserved for inability to provide enough T4 when your body “wants” it – not just an adaptively lower metabolic rate.
Let me relate something. My body temperature – regardless of body comp, regardless of macro ratios, and over the past 25 years, is consistently in the mid- 70s and never varies.
According to Stone, I am “hypometabolic” yet my thyroid labs are normal and I can walk outside in flip-flops in 30 degree weather no problem. I have almost supernatural cold tolerance in my hands and feet. My point is that the feeling of being cold – especially in the limbs -has more to do with peripheral circulation and environmental adaptation and emotional state than it has to do with fractions of a degree in variation in core temperature.
@Dr. Harris,
I’m definitely not here to espouse Stone’s ideas.
Agreed. Simply using body temp can be deceptive because of how many hormones alter body temperature. Measuring rT3 and T3 would help clear up that issue.
Providing ample T3 to mingle with vitamin A and cholesterol to produce pregnenolone seems like something to shoot for, especially since stress is a long-standing issue for many.
I’ve heard that you think Dr. Peat is a loon, so I won’t belabor this.
Kurt, for thread clarity, I’m assuming you mean your body temp runs in the 97s. If that’s not correct, please correct.
correct – typing too fast….
I, for one, would love to read what Kurt thinks about Peat.
i for two!
“As far as “thyroid”, when metabolism slows down as a defense mechanism, that is not hypothyroidism -that is normal physiology even if you are cold as a result. Hypothyroidism should be a term reserved for inability to provide enough T4 when your body “wants” it – not just an adaptively lower metabolic rate.”- kurt
hahhahaha this is the best quote of 2012 i have read…hands down, coupled with everyone self diagnosing adrenal fatigue and hypothyroidism. maybe they have some stress problems like overthinking their frikin body functions and food choices but im almost positive 99% do not actually have malfunctioning adrenal glands nor malfunctioning thyroids…
Usually people feel cold when their temperature is above normal even slightly when they have a cold. It seems logical to expect that a person with low than average body temperature shout be cold tolerant. Is it right, or I am wrong?
Also, after changing my medication from Synthroid to Armour Thyroid I feel more worm and more cold tolerant but my body temperature didn’t changed.
@Mallory,
I sense that the major prerogative in the paleosphere is to balance blood sugar and minimize insulin. And if it’s more than weight you’re dealing with you must have something wrong with the gut-brain-axis.
Serotonin, estrogen, and adrenaline are rarely discussed in regards to their ability to modulate blood sugar.
Free fatty acids suppressing the ability of the cell to utilize glucose (randle cycle) is also something that doesn’t get any attention.
I thought hypothyroidism was low output of thyroid hormones, and considering the conversion of active thyroid hormone to T3 is where all the benefits are, so I’m a little confused at Dr. Harris’s definition of being hypo, and really confused at him calling Barnes a quack due to the fact that he had something like ~4,000 patients and less than five of them died of a heart attack.
You may be right about low metabolism and adrenal fatigue being fabrications, but people wouldn’t turn to them if they didn’t have significant health problems unsolved by either ‘real doctors’ or ‘real paleo authorities.’
In such a case, you have two basic choices: Wait for these ‘real’ authorities to refine their recommendations until they actually work for you, or follow Seth Roberts’ idea and begin to self experiment, perhaps using some of Matt’s ideas. Given how painfully slow health science advances, I think it’s foolish to wait.
It’s obvious that the carbs you’re eating now, along with your lack of activity, are clouding your thought, and making you angry, irritable, and aggressive.
You’ll probably have a heart attack soon!
And I have NO doubt this would be reflected in your body temperature.
Prove me wrong!
(snark off)
Ha!
“And I have NO doubt this would be reflected in your body temperature.”
Indeed. Corpses have a body temperature very close to ambient or room temperature. The don’t eat pizza and ice cream.
Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.
A low body temperature (low thyroid) is suggestive of hormonal disarray.
Letting the disinterest for Stone’s ideas guide one’s interpretation of physiology is probably unproductive.
Low body temperature is not necessarily indicative of compromised thyroid function.