What say you? Since even before Robb himself began questioning the sanity of Low Carb as the unequivocal harbinger of objective, just-so health qua inquisitorial dogma in the context of a so-called healthy lifestyle with ubiquitous designs, I’ve been chewing just like I know he has.
I blogged about his own n=1 with potato starch the other day.
He’s still asking questions.
I “get it”. Calories matter. Insulin hypothesis is dead. Gotcha. What I’m still intrigued by however is WHY people overeat. I’d throw my hat largely in the “hyper palatable food + neuroregulation of appetite” camp. Case in point: Zoe has pretty much eaten “paleo” since starting solid food. We do some goat yogurt and goat milk, but have largely steered clear of grains and refined foods. For christmas Nicki made some cookies (almond flour, cinnamon, just a bit of sugar…if you do not like 90% dark chocolate, you’d not find these sweet) and Zoe tried them. Not a SINGLE day has gone by since christmas that Zoe has not asked for a “santa cookie.” I find that pretty damn interesting.
“I’d throw my hat largely in the “hyper palatable food+ neuroregulation of appetite” camp.”
I’m so in the same place. It is the question.
- Obesity is caused by taking in more energy over long term than you expend.
- Why then, given the clear signs on many levels—not least of which is having to shop—do people do it to themselves and in such great numbers?
My suspicion is that it’s a perfect storm of engineered food and a compromised gut biome that has us succumbing to every urge in terms of food intake. Moreover, I believe since there’s nothing to be done about food engineering, there are ways to massage the gut biome back to better health.
Consider that in spite of all the food engineering, there’s still huge numbers who have never succumbed. Why? They eat the stuff too, most of them. But perhaps they eat way less of it and can bring themselves to stop. And there’s another why.
The only thing I’m certain of is that it’s not just the carbs.
Robb shoots back:
Richard that exactly mirrors my thoughts on all this regarding mechanism. I’ve been looking at papers which show excessive cal intake causes zonulin release and subsequent intestinal permeability.
A good question would be: do we see this same effect, to the same degree, with largely unprocessed food? The challenge there is force feeding folks to eat that much on paleo. Lynda Frasetto found it almost impossible to get people to eat MAINTENANCE levels on paleo, to say nothing of trying to induce a 500-1,000 cal excess. Clearly it’s doable, but a bit tougher than with cookies & crack.
“do we see this same effect, to the same degree, with largely unprocessed food?”
I say that to be honest, we have to say yes. I believe some Pacific islanders may be a good example where some can get big and fat on the bounty easily delivered in tropical paradise. If you wrap your mind around it, though, it’s perhaps that a natural setting al-la tropics where not much work is needed for anything, to serve as a plausible model of what modern society has provided in terms of division of labor, huge disposable income, way more free time, etc.
I think one thing you can say is that even in the relative luxury of agriculture as contrasted with H-G, it’s still a lot of work. I can’t recall in my life seeing a picture of an obese farmer or his sons & daughters. Some of the wives, perhaps, who spend their days baking pies.
As to getting people to eat on “pure paleo” I believe this is where reasonable starch comes in, and it’s so damn simple and enjoyable. I Think Paul has it worked out pretty well and I’m always seduced by the simplicity of the PHD template: macros in mammalian milk proportion, 50/30/20 f/c/p. Elegant.
Anyone else have ideas?