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Hashimoto’s Thyroid Update: Carbs, Probiotics and Gut Food; and Improved

I’m not going to be snarky about this because I don’t in fact count it as a “cure,” yet. But, improved for sure, and no thyroid meds. Here’s the previous posts on the topic:

After I wrote the first post, having test results indicating a diagnosis of Hashimoto’s (elevated TPO Antibody and TSH), I set about to institute a protocol involving a whole list of Don’ts, then re-test in three months. I ended up not following most of the Don’ts, but rather focussed on the gut, per my subsequent posts; i.e., Dos rather than Don’ts.

Well, because of life getting in the way, it ended up being 5 months instead of three between tests. I didn’t bother abstaining from alcohol, nor gluten. As I thought about it, it seemed to me that living under a bunch of restrictions, avoidances, and abstentions, even if a cure, would be worse than the disease. I agree in that case: just take the meds.

But what if, instead, living normally but adding in some Dos might actually perform better, and then all I have is sensible choices, not a bunch of No-Nos to make me “Bulletproof?” So, only two real avoidances:

  1. All deep fried food, and fried food in general, regardless of oil or fat. One exception is eggs fried quickly in butter. It’s not abstention but high avoidance: sure, I’ll have a half dozen french fries or potato chips now & then, push the rest away.
  2. All processed foods. You know what I mean: that 2″+ long ingredients list on the box or package.

More importantly, the Dos:

  1. Stopped worrying about generally whole foods, including grain-based (i.e., a French Baguette from Acme Bakery. Ate a whole one in a day, a few days ago), “toxins,” legumes, carbohydrates.
  2. Ate way more carbohydrate, perhaps averaging 200g per day. Fruit and beans are my primary sources. I’ll also drink a couple of artisan sugar-water sodas per week. Virgil’s is decent, so are the Mexican versions of Coke & Dr. Pepper. No artificially sweetened drinks, anymore. Also, about a quart or so of fresh squeezed OJ per week on average.
  3. Really pounded the “dirt-based” probiotics (preferred method is empty stomach in the morning, no food for a few hours). See posts here and here.
  4. Focussed in on decent gut food (like beans). Also, some supplementation via a gut-bug powder mix. See here.
  5. While I don’t avoid protein or fat, this other stuff now takes priority and I’m always very less hungry. My animal protein intake is relatively Asian-esque, now.

Curiously enough, the massive drop in appetite resulted in me dropping about 15 pounds in the last few months, from 195-200, down to 180-185. And still dropping. My recent 5-day excursion to Los Zacatitos with morning and afternoon snorkeling daily—and eating more fruit than anything else—I dropped 3-4 pounds.

So, the results. Tested yesterday, last test early December, 2014.

  • TSH dropped; from 9.86 to 5.30, which is just (barely) within the Standard Range of 0.10 – 5.50.
  • T3, Total rose; from 112 to 122 (Standard Range 50 – 170)
  • Free T4, same 1.0 (Standard Range 0.8 – 1.7)

Here’s the TSH chart.

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2009 – 2011 was while I was on T meds (Armour, 2gr daily), so this is the very first time since original diagnosis in early 2000s that TSH has been in range without being on any meds (none since 2012 or 13).

For some reason, the Doc didn’t order up the TPO Antibody, which was 216 (<=35 IU/mL) last time, probably figuring that autoimmune is autoimmune and it’s not going to improve. I’m not going to sweat it. It’s enough improvement in 2 of the three other numbers to continue the course, re-test in another three months or so, and ensure the TPO gets done next time.

They also did fasting blood glucose. For years I’ve had high, like 105 – 115, sometimes 120 or so during a fast, and I’ve long though it’s because the fast is in the realm of an already low carb regime (physiological insulin resistance). I haven’t been using my meter lately, so I didn’t know where the added carbs were going to take me, didn’t want to freak myself out. But, yesterday’s lab test came back at 89, first time I’ve seen under 100 in years.

On a final note, I know it’s way heretical to suggest that grains of any kind can be therapeutic. The problem is, if the goal is to avoid or eliminate gluten, then:

  1. Is it really the gluten that’s the problem, or something else in the grains?
  2. What nutrients, such as minerals, are you giving up to avoid gluten?

In terms of the Gluten-Free craze, this is worth reading: The gluten-free craze is out of hand. Here are 8 facts to counter the madness. An example.

This poses a dilemma, of course, and makes a diagnosis subjective. Studies — such as this one in the journal Gastroenterology — have found that many people who think they have non-celiac gluten sensitivity actually don’t. Some wonder whether gluten sensitivity truly exists, or if there’s something else going on.

In terms of grains being potentially therapeutic, there’s this: An opportunistic pathogen isolated from the gut of an obese human causes obesity in germ free mice.

Lipopolysaccharide endotoxin is the only known bacterial product which, when subcutaneously infused into mice in its purified form, can induce obesity and insulin resistance via an inflammation-mediated pathway. Here we show that one endotoxin-producing bacterium isolated from a morbidly obese human’s gut induced obesity and insulin resistance in germfree mice. The endotoxin-producing Enterobacter decreased in relative abundance from 35% of the volunteer’s gut bacteria to non-detectable, during which time the volunteer lost 51.4 kg of 174.8 kg initial weight and recovered from hyperglycemia and hypertension after 23 weeks on a diet of whole grains, traditional Chinese medicinal foods and prebiotics. A decreased abundance of endotoxin biosynthetic genes in the gut of the volunteer was correlated with a decreased circulating endotoxin load and alleviated inflammation. Mono-association of germfree C57BL/6J mice with strain Enterobacter cloacae B29 isolated from the volunteer’s gut induced fully developed obesity and insulin resistance on a high-fat diet but not on normal chow diet, whereas the germfree control mice on a high-fat diet did not exhibit the same disease phenotypes. The Enterobacter-induced obese mice showed increased serum endotoxin load and aggravated inflammatory conditions. The obesity-inducing capacity of this human-derived endotoxin producer in gnotobiotic mice suggests that it may causatively contribute to the development of obesity in its human host.

The more and more I experiment such as this here, and The Duck Dodgers delve into hormesis, the more it becomes clear to me that dose makes the poison, and everything is tied to gut health.

Richard Nikoley

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52 Comments

  1. Luceo on May 1, 2015 at 08:48

    This kinda reminds me of my thoughts on beer. Despite being a big paleo no-no, I was a homebrewer before going primal and figured making my own and drinking good craft beer fit the intentions of the lifestyle, at least. And if good beer is the only gluten I get, then it’s a tiny fraction of what most get.

    • Richard Nikoley on May 1, 2015 at 09:07

      My “baby” brother is a brewmeister. He can duplicate almost anything, but his kegged IPAs are always the best.

      One time, years ago, he brewed and kegged some recipe with like a 10% alcohol content. Man did we get silly one afternoon at the campsite.

    • Luceo on May 1, 2015 at 10:16

      The best part of brewing is sharing it with friends and family. Fun times ensue! 🙂

  2. John on May 1, 2015 at 09:34

    Dear Richard Nikoley AKA Captain Deniability,

    First, 5.3 is still shit. Anything over 3 is hypothyroid. 4.5 is the actual upper range with most labs and this number is woefully outdated.

    Second, of course gluten matters you ditz — especially in regards to autoimmune disease. Two very recent studies you should review. I’m sure you’ll ignore these like you do all evidence that’s contrary to what you WANT to believe.
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2251729415000063?np=y
    http://m.jn.nutrition.org/content/early/2015/04/08/jn.115.212829.short

    Here’s a thought – why don’t you get some blood tests done to see if you react to gluten instead of just assuming you don’t?

    • Richard Nikoley on May 1, 2015 at 09:46

      You miss the forrest through the trees, John.

      The bottom line is that TSH is in a downward trend without meds, and in spite of gluten.

      I think it’s you with the sure mind, man. I’m the one open to questioning everything. And while studies can certainly be informative guides, there’s lots of studies, lots of contradiction and in the end, one must still future out what works for them.

      Which, of course, is what I’m doing.

      Again, I logged improvement in spite of all the various catechism. Suck it up.

    • Richard Nikoley on May 1, 2015 at 09:48

      “…of course gluten matters…”

      This tells me you’re a believer, not a thinker.

    • Richard Nikoley on May 1, 2015 at 10:30

      So John, just checked and I had the Gliadin AgA and AgG antibody tests back in July of 2008. tested 6 and 14, respectively, both of which are well in tolerance, near as I can tell.

      So, gluten may matter for YOU, not for me, and I think the gut biome undercuts it for way most, which is what I’m demonstrated.

      But, you are a believer. I know it pisses you the fuck off to realize you’ve been wrong and have missed a huge part of the puzzle all these years.

      Tant pis.

      …I knew I’d get a fucktard in here real quick. Thanks John.

    • Jackie on May 1, 2015 at 13:42

      …of course 1 + 1 = 2
      I must be a believer too!

    • Richard Nikoley on May 1, 2015 at 13:57

      Of course you are, Jackie. You just KNOW it’s got to be gluten for all people at all times and so you ignore falsifying data and cheerlead with another believer because at root, you think that 1 + 1 = 2 is based on how many people believe it.

    • Dr. Curmudgeon Gee on May 1, 2015 at 22:08

      how can you accuse John as believer
      when you also _believe_ that your friendly bugs have taken care of gluten for you?

    • Dr. Curmudgeon Gee on May 1, 2015 at 22:20

      ok. you can call me a fucktard. although i think it should be fucked-tard. i don’t care.

      i used to have projectile vomiting from gluten (or wheat); had my anti-bodies checked; very low. so doc told me to eat gluten at well cause i’m not gluten intolerant (i.e., non-celiac). but i still vomited.

      although now, my discomfort for small amount of exposure has reduced to half day (bloating & nausea + mild headache, brain fog).
      still not pleasant.

      cheers,

    • Richard Nikoley on May 1, 2015 at 23:08

      Very simple.

      He is contradicting my actual experience by means of his “of course” belief, just as you yourself find incredulous.

      I’m allowing, based on actual experience, that such beliefs are unfounded, for me. Clearly, carbs and gluten are not my problem, per se. Gut may not be the only explanation, but Occam’s Razor suggests a contribution while you and John and Jackie want to scoff at what’s right in front of your faces because you don’t want to accept it.

      And I’m not even suggesting it applies in exactly the same way for everyone, only for me.

      But you can’t accept falsification that it’s not everyone’s problem.

      Another absolute believer in a simplicity that turns out to be false.

    • Richard Nikoley on May 1, 2015 at 23:14

      You are not following, curmudgeon. Nobody eats “gluten.” You eat stuff that contains that and unless you isolate the compound, you can’t just willy-nilly assert it’s gluten, and especially not extrapolate that it applies to everyone.

      I’ll admit I was surprised, but it is what it is and there’s no way I can implicate grains anymore, in non-poison dose levels.

    • Mary on May 3, 2015 at 03:12

      My coeliac antibodies were zero but a gene test indicated my genetic susceptibility and a biopsy confirmed that I am coeliac. Apparently not all coeliacs will produce antibodies. A biopsy is the only definitive way to rule coeliac either in or out.

    • Richard Nikoley on May 3, 2015 at 08:09

      Yes, I’ve heard of that, Mary. But, you probably had severe intestinal issues, so the antibody test made you look deeper. In my case, gluten has never given me intestinal distress, only heartburn (and unusually along with alcohol, so confounded). Now, so long as no booze, doesn’t give me heartburn either. So, logical conclusion in my case is I probably have neither celiac nor gluten sensitivity.

    • A.N on May 7, 2015 at 13:22

      For assessing your health, the only relevant factor is your T4 levels.
      TSH can vary greatly among people, without any significant affect on your health.
      In your n=1 trial, there are too many factors to consider, hence any conclusion is highly masked.

  3. Matthew on May 1, 2015 at 10:15

    Personally, my own way of thinking about it is nutrient displacement.

    If you’re eating enough whole foods to feel and look healthy, you simply won’t have the calories or stomach capacity to fit in other junk.

    Gluten itself probably not the enemy, but found in so much processed food that for most people if you cut out gluten you cut out most of the crap you were eating and voila, “gluten-free” works! @@.

    Eat whole foods, have some ice cream once in a while. Don’t overcomplicate.

    • John on May 1, 2015 at 10:33

      I ate about 2350 calories yesterday, all nutrient dense whole food. I thought about pizza, and immediately knew I could eat an entire large. If I haven’t eaten pizza in a given day, regardless of what else or how much I’ve eaten, I will be in the mood for pizza if I think about it.

      For me, stomach capacity for junk is independent of stomach capacity (or hunger) for whole food.

      I am lean, active, and weight stable.

    • Richard Nikoley on May 1, 2015 at 10:40

      Yea, but age is always a factor. In college, pizza was a staple food and I was very lean.

      Now, 1 or 2 slices are easily handled, but if I stuff, gonna be nuclear heartburn, which to me is a natural clue that either you ought not eat it, or, way smaller quantities.

  4. John on May 1, 2015 at 10:25

    Have you been experiencing less low grade sustained stress lately, given the breath of fresh air sensation you must feel finally following your dream? Perhaps relevant if so.

    I’ve messed with no grains, no wheat, no gluten, and all kinds of restrictive permutations. I’ve had some digestive issues going on for years, and they did not seem affected positively by the elimination of gluten. Conversely, in the past 10 years, my digestion seemed best at the times I was eating the most white flour based products, especially pasta. The only thing I notice consistently correlated with personal digestive issues are raw vegetables, particularly broccoli.

    • Richard Nikoley on May 1, 2015 at 10:38

      John, I think it’s too soon to tell.

      Stress is multifaceted. Getting rid of one set via a big move brings on another set. For instance, now I’m stressed about what if I need BMW service way down there? Another, the dogs in that way different environment. Generally, dogs avoid reptiles, they’re not prey. However, they can be bitten accidentally. OTOH, dogs can get over a rattlensnake bite. Have some benedryl on hand to keep airways open, keep them calm until it passes.

    • Richard Nikoley on May 1, 2015 at 15:09

      On the other hand, one is really in the elements down there, and I’m swimming a lot in the primordial living soup that is the ocean.

      Time will tell.

  5. Alex on May 1, 2015 at 12:20

    Hey Richard,

    I was curious about something. I was thinking back to your posts on nutrient density (Liver vs. fruit), K2, etc and noticed those things weren’t mentioned per se on the “do” list. Do you still focus on nutrient density as well, or not so important since you are eating whole foods to begin with?

    • Richard Nikoley on May 1, 2015 at 14:01

      Alex. Somewhat, not as ferociously because I think the gut is just as important and their nutrient density is not the same as ours.

      I’m looking forward to snorkeling for oysters and urchins in Mexico, both of which are plentiful and nutrient dense. I love both fresh and raw, scooped right out of the shell.

  6. Corey on May 1, 2015 at 16:05

    Richard, have you looked at monolaurin supplements as they relate to gut health? I did a search of the site, and nothing came up. As I’m sure you know it’s one of the main components in coconut oil that’s supposed to provide numerous benefits.

    I just came across it today when researching H. Pylori, and apparently it’s touted as being quite beneficial for the gut.

    • Richard Nikoley on May 1, 2015 at 20:15

      Had never heard of it myself. Interesting Wikipedia entry. In addition to various anti-microbial properties in vitro, in addition to coconut oil, it’s apparently also in human breast milk. That always raises my eyebrows, so certainly worth looking into.

  7. brian on May 2, 2015 at 06:30

    off the wall question but have you ever had a sleep study done? I just did on the urging of my endo and found out I had 36 respiratory interruptions per hour! I don’t even snore. Been life changing to get a restful sleep and to see the health benefits.

    • Richard Nikoley on May 2, 2015 at 10:39

      Funny you should ask, brian.

      No, not a clinical one, but I just ordered a fitbit from Amazon that has a heart rate and sleep monitor. Supposed to be delivered today. That should give me an idea if I need to get a clinical study done. Generally though, I seem to sleep well and wake up feeling rested. We’ll see.

    • joseph on May 6, 2015 at 11:39

      Hey Brian
      if you dont mind how did you fix those interruptions?

    • Brian on May 6, 2015 at 13:44

      Hi Joseph,
      After my sleep study was done and came back with this conclusion that I had severe sleep apnea, my health insurance paid for me to get a super cool automatic CPAP (resmed a10). It has a built in humidifier and is web-enabled. Each morning it gives me a report of the number of respiratory interruptions per hour and I am down to 2-3 per hour now. I am hoping this will major impact on my low-T (can’t produce when you wake up so much) along with reduced risk of stroke, heart attacks, etc. Best thing is I am a better husband and dad – way more patient. Anyone else on a CPAP?

  8. Hegemon on May 2, 2015 at 06:45

    Richard – wanted to say thanks for the website. You stretch my thinking everyday. Glad to read and learn, even when I don’t always agree.

    My experience with the gut/dirt pills has been great. I haven’t been able to eat nightshades for years, but I can eat potatoes now. This leads me to believe that finding the right gut bug could eliminate gluten problems for me. I had 2-3 rounds of antibiotics every year growing up. I’m sure there’s not much left in there, so I’m working to rebuild.

    You have convinced me to add some gluten back in the diet. I used to have acid problems so bad that I was on 2 a day nexium and still popping Maalox like candy. Gluten elimination fixed that, but like you said the cure causes other problems. Never had nightshade issues until I dropped the gluten. Now dark chocolate causes me issues, and sometimes eggs. I know people who just keep eliminating and keep developing more and more “allergies”. So I’ve said Fuck that. Not gonna keep doing the same dumb shit and getting worse. I’ve added potatoes back and feel great. I’ll dip my toe into the gluten waters this month and see how things go. I’ll up the gut pills and add some variety to see if that helps.

    Like you, my eating has changed over the years to be more vegetable/fruit/bean based and rely much less on meat. Every once in a while I’ll hammer a 16oz steak, but I usually eat 2-4 oz now in a meal, sometimes none. Breakfast-type meats (bacon, sausage, etc) are a rarity; they are the center of the midwestern American breakfast but I find my body doesn’t want them anymore.

    Lastly, a question asked in a very love you, keep blogging sort of way. Been reading the blog for several years now and you’re still talking about “losing weight”. What’s up with that? I have no dog in the fight, not trying to bash. I’m just genuinely curious as to what’s up. You’ve helped me drop 40 pounds and be healthier than ever and I thank you for changing my life for the better.

    Thanks,
    Justin

    • Richard Nikoley on May 2, 2015 at 11:17

      Basically, it’s been a yo-yo of 185 ish to 195 ish for several years. Why appetite. Its taken me a while to adapt to and embrace higher carb levels because I was pretty low-to moderate for so long, so used to quite a lot of protein and fat, pushing out the other stuff. Now that I have adjusted my gut, my appetite has changed significantly so it’s home stretch this time.

      You simply can’t beat hunger and cravings long term. You have to find a way to change them, which has finally happened. Shit, breakfast this morning was a half of a mini watermelon. That’s what appealed to me the most. Usually it’s pinto beans and a couple of eggs. Almost never do breakfast meat anymore. And in particular, most bacon tastes unpleasantly salty to me.

  9. Jackie on May 2, 2015 at 12:34

    Richard, have you experimented with real sauerkraut/pickles/fermented veggies and _foods_ with RS/fiber rather than probiotic pills and prebiotic supplements/isolates?

    I ‘believe’ in you Richard 😉

    • Richard Nikoley on May 2, 2015 at 13:28

      All actually. had kraut the other day, have some Bubbie’s pickles in the fridge, and kimchi often. I usually get from these guys, who have a booth at the Farmer’s market.

      http://farmhouseculture.com

      Still, have always done that. Never noticed any effect. I do from the pills. Looks like my experience trumps yours, so I have no reason to “believe” you.

  10. doGnuts on May 2, 2015 at 19:14

    Richard, with Mrs Nikoley out the picture for a few weeks at a time have you thought of experimenting with your testosterone balance? I’ve tried this recently (by abstaining from wanking as I no Mrs Nikoley to facilitate these activities) and the results have been quite remarkable. The only downside is I am so “charged” up and full of energy I sometimes have trouble getting enough sleep. Getting out of bed in the morning has never been easier though. It’s like my brain is just “on” all the time. There’s no downtime anymore. As I understand it, the effect is a result of reduced prolactin in the bloodstream rather than increased testosterone. Oh, and no more porn for me either 🙁

    • Richard Nikoley on May 3, 2015 at 08:33

      Correction, just checked the log. From 2pm to Midnight, expended 3,200 calories. Bea is gone so walked the dogs 4 times, about 5k steps in all. But all day, I ate only 1,600 calories. Woke up hungry, but with little appetite. Black coffee and 4 oz coconut water for 20 calories so far today.

  11. Richard Nikoley on May 2, 2015 at 19:58

    Did you ever read Ferriss’ post on no booze, porn, wanking for a month? He and Kevin Rose also covered the topic in one of their Random episodes.

    Of course, nothing will ever top that Seinfeld episode…

    • doGnuts on May 2, 2015 at 23:04

      Re: Seinfeld, when Kramer comes in slams his money down on the table and shouts “that’s me, I’m out” it gets me every single time. I love it.

      Re: Ferriss’, I’ve avoided his stuff in the past as it always seemed a bit too gimmicky but since you’ve mentioned it I’ve had a closer look. Seems there is something there.

      No fapping has greatly increased my urge to find a girlfriend btw (I’ve never bothered with one before). I’ve already noticed that either I’m noticing girls more or they’re noticing me (one, the other or both – I can’t tell).

      I’ve always appreciated your candor in encouraging young men to be real men too btw. It comes out every so often in your posts.

  12. Big Guts on May 3, 2015 at 05:24

    I did gluten free and high fat, paleo, etc and always felt like shit no matter how “perfect” I did it. In fact the only time I felt good was when I hadn’t eaten for like 5-6 hours, then I would eat high fat, low carb, gluten free and feel terrible again.

    Now I feel good all the time eating gluten and lots of carbs, especially sugar. The more sugar I eat and the less fat I consume, the better I feel. Getting some protein also helps, but I don’t need a lot, maybe a palm sized amount of meat and some cheese. I have lots of energy, good mood and so on. This all kind of goes against everything I thought was right, but I just can’t deny that I feel a million times better this way.

    I guess I’m not a fat burner, perhaps I can only really burn sugar. The strangest part is that if I consume shit loads of sugar, in the form of fruits, soft drink and juice, and keep the fat as low as necessary to be sane (still eat butter, cheese and meat), the weight melts off. I can’t lose weight any other way and I’ve tried most things.

    • Richard Nikoley on May 3, 2015 at 08:16

      My Fitbit Charge HR showed up yesterday. I ended up logging everything I ate all day, from Breakfast on. 250g carbs, 50g protein, 50g fat. Ended up under eating the actual measured calorie expenditure from 2pm to midnight by 800 calories.

    • John on May 6, 2015 at 10:40

      Thinking back, when I used to do high fat breakfasts (eggs with cheese, bacon, coffee with lots of cream), I wouldn’t feel so great for a few hours. Not quite like I wanted to throw up, but not too far, either. I guess it can be hard to digest too much fat, too.

      I’m also noticing the benefits of upping carbs & sugars while cutting back on fat. Especially in the muscles. Guess it’s all that glycogen replenishment, huh?

      By the way Big Guts, you might be interested to look up William Brown. In the 1930’s, he ate basically a skim milk and sugar diet for 6 months (practically no fat) to see if EFA deficiency could be induced in an adult human. He only weighed 152 pounds at the start, but still lost 14 pounds on the diet while eating 2500 calories a day.

  13. Charles on May 3, 2015 at 14:40

    For most of the last 50 years, I’ve been sensitive to lots of stuff. Wheat, chicken, eggs. Even a little bit would cause problems. After hitting the prebiotics/probiotics hard for a year or so, I can eat those things with no apparent problems. I don’t eat a lot of them, but I don’t have to be such a wimp when I go to someone’s house for dinner and they’ve made chicken pasta or eggs Benedict or something. I’m not going to push it. The only thing I really miss is eggs, and we have farm fresh eggs most of the time around here. But it’s nice to not be so afraid of food. And it’s clearly about taking care of the gut, reducing general high immune response, etc.

  14. Charlene on May 4, 2015 at 06:02

    Hey Richard,

    Glad you’re finding improvement in your health. That’s awesome.

    When I started looking into WAP diet to help my daughter with her severe rheumatoid arthritis, spent a lot of time reading paleo/primal blogs and thinking about the restrictions on the auto-immune protocol. Decided against it because my daughter, already underweight, was losing more weight with her illness. The last thing she needed was to restrict foods.

    Had her pound raw milk and eat as much seafood as possible. Ate grains, potatoes, etc. to appetite. It took 2-3 years for her to feel good again – so it’s not a fast cure by any means. But, boy, are we glad we never did immunosuppressants and pain-killers.

  15. Jonathan on May 5, 2015 at 15:45

    I went LC 2 years ago after being told that my weight needed to be controlled though labs where in the desirable range for glucose, HDL/LDL and triglycerides. Had labs redone went to -ish, got back on carbs, SBO, weight came back but my labs went back to the desirable range. Just me and my n=1 thought

  16. eddie belschner on May 8, 2015 at 11:17

    Glad your better dude…

    But dig and pick apart the wheat , 14 , 28 and 42 wheat as in chromosomes ((( GREAT story for your SITE to hammer them on!!!! )). theres different varieties under each wheat– chromosome and type. I to think the gluten free crazy is out of hand. But the horse shit is the USA wheat , 42 ….GMO<—wheat. Eat all the wheat you want but dive into 14 chromosome wheat EINKORN — missing the alpha chain.( needed to bind with beta in celiac etc ) All USA wheat is blocked to Europe , there they have 14, and 28 ..14 wheat Einkorn appears to not form stem RUST — fungus USA producers of 42 Monsanto wheat are digging in try to extract the genes of value that limit fungus. ( have failed so far) Most wheat is loaded with fungal toxins from sitting in the large wet SILO .. in turn your getting sick from toxins . Monsato USA wheat has developed a good product against floading of rain…HEAT etc but more fungus. The same goes for CORN…. In the wheat the Fungus binds to the wheat… Science has proven this.. look up current studies . The protein in fungus HWP1 looks like gluten. In my eyes — and what happen to me –my immune system couldnt tell them apart.( due to my genetics –we are all different).. I carry all the genes for celiac or gluten intolerance Alpha and beta plus extras. Today after fixing my gut.. I can enjoy flour products beer etc… but dont go over board. I limit anything USA wheat… At home if I want fried fish.. etc I use EINKORN..wheat — you can buy on amazon or in your local health TREE hugger store

    • eddie belschner on May 8, 2015 at 11:18

      you didnt eat horse shit in france (42 wheat) you ate 28 or 14 wheat made pastries

  17. Jennifer on May 12, 2015 at 15:16

    I TRIED the autoimmune paleo, but it was TOO hard. Living without all if that WHEN I HAVE NO HYPO SYMPTOMS AND HAVE LEVELS IN NORMAL RANGE thanks to levothy (which everyone says doesn’t work)… I’d rather die of the disease than the cure.

    But more importantly, I feel awful on low carb diets. Plus, I’ve nevrr had any digestive issues of any kind from gluten. I still do some crossfit type workouts, and without carbs, I am dying. That, and I’ve been living in S America for 10 months. Go on– TRY and avoid eating gluten! I gave up.

    I get that a lot of people are sensitive to lots of foods thanks to Hashi’s. But not all are sensitive to the same.

  18. VF on November 21, 2016 at 18:15

    I’ve been looking around the internet for the best diet to help with Hashimoto. It’s really disappointing to see how many people say they improved their Hashimoto with “diet,” yet when I read the article or blog post, I find that they changed their diet and started taking T3 or some other med.

    They have a different definition of treating themselves with “diet” than I do. Tom me, it seems like a bad idea overall to medicate with hormones. Better to try to find out why your body isn’t producing or utilizing hormones the way nature intended.

    Thanks so much for all of your Hashimoto- and gut-related posts Richard!

  19. envious fuckard on November 24, 2016 at 02:18

    Hey Richard,

    The Hashimoto’s is not necessarily visible or traceable with the TSH alone, as I think you’re well aware. The anti-bodies indicate that. My TSH was and is in the normal range, however I’ve had 3 years of bad symptoms. Not fun. No doctor was able to find out what i had, and I’ve seen quite a bunch. 3 years later, a new doctor told me immediately: I think you have a thyroid issue, And indeed, anti-bodies came through to prove it and with this, paradoxically, relief: at least i knew what i was up against.

    Now I know we’re all different (& all the rest of the truisms), however, you cannot decide you’re better on TSH alone, if you don’t check your ABs. Not for Hashimoto’s. I am happy you feel better, however feeling better and actually being better based on your lab results are not always the same thing. So before going about: hey, folks, I’m feeling so much better now that I’m eating gluten, see my TSH chart is not really accurate. Show your ABs chart for that. So yeah, I agree that you cannot count this as a cure. Btw, there’s no cure for Hashimoto’s, “yet”. Just improved symptoms, which you had, for some reason or other. My money would go on your improved gut health, obviously. But hey, we’re all different, so in your case it might be the baguette ;-).

    Just some envious fuckard, ’cause I really would like to feel better while eating a whole baguette 😉

  20. Laszlo Seres on March 19, 2017 at 09:38

    Hi Richard,
    Just been diagnosed with Hashi’s, I’m 42, male with a history of autoimmune issues since childhood, (Psoriasis, Raynaud’s). I’ve been reading your post for a few years but just found these articles about your Hashimoto issues, how is your health recently?
    I did try a few things in the last few years to improve my health and my mental state so I’m a bit frustrated with my diagnosis although I know that the issues have started several years prior. Did try Elixa, a double course seemed to help a little with IBS but did not make much difference in autoimmune symptoms.
    2 questions:
    1. Are you familiar with Kiran Krishnan’s work? Did not find any post using the search box. His latest product (or he is involved with) is Megaspore, probiotic with spore forming organisms. Unfortunately I won’t be able to order it, as I live in Europe and it is distributed via healthcare professionals only. But the weaker version (Peakbiotics) may be available. Would like to hear your opinion as Kiran posted a very interesting webinar about his product and how it helps with leaky gut:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuu_UjedpBg

    2. Thoughts about selenium supplementation versus dietary intake (e.g. brazil nuts) for Hashi’s? Chris Kresser seems to think it is dangerous to supplement, but others recommend it.
    Would love to know your opinion for both of these questions.
    Thanks for your excellent work BTW.

    Laszlo

    • Richard Nikoley on March 19, 2017 at 14:39

      Hi Lazslow:

      You know, I had high TSH for years, but never a single symptom I could ever identify. Moreover, tests of the various T’s were low normal.

      I eventually did the antibody tests and they came up positive. I focused on gut health and a few months later my TSH was (barely) in high normal range.

      I’ve just not bothered with it since then, and still not a single classic symptom of any problem.

  21. Dirk on March 20, 2017 at 06:20

    I’ve been eating Paleo-ish/Mediterranean-ish with IF for years now along with all the gut stuff and had my first complete blood test in years and was told I am borderline low-thyroid. Go figure …

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