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#Brexit: My Take and The Best and Funniest Stuff I Saw

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Let’s set the tone with a good LOL.

Crybabies.

crybabies

It turns out that the voting demographics are pretty interesting. EU referendum: The result in maps and charts. Lots of ’em. This one is particularly telling.

agedemo

Or, seems those who were bright-eyed young folk 41 years ago and voted to remain in the European Economic Community (EEC), the predecessor to the EU, have become disillusioned in the interim. Perhaps it was the recent EU move to ban electric hair dryers, toasters, and teapots…or perhaps the EU “Bendy Banana Law“…who knows?

Commission Regulation (EC) No. 2257/94 of 16 September 1994 laying down quality standards for bananas, also known informally as bendy banana law, is a European Union regulation specifying classification standards for bananas, which took effect on 1 January 1995.[1] It was replaced by Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) No 1333/2011 of 19 December 2011 laying down marketing standards for bananas, rules on the verification of compliance with those marketing standards and requirements for notifications in the banana sector with effect as of 9 January 2012.[2]

At any rate, just like the literally crybabies up top, lotta younguns gots knickers in bunches.

Oxford, UK — Gloom and disillusionment rippled across the Oxford University campus today, as students woke up to not only their final exams, but to news that the British electorate voted to separate from the EU, that their prime minister had resigned over the so-called “Brexit,” and that their economic prospects were suddenly thrown into turmoil.

Standing outside a university café, after a night of celebration following her final exam, 19-year-old medical student Evie Rothwell said she was feeling a sense of “betrayal” this morning.

“A really important decision was made for us by the older generation,” she explained, noting that exit polls showed that three-quarters of voters aged 18 to 24 wanted to remain in the EU. By contrast, more than 60 percent of seniors aged 65+ voted to leave. […]

The students see the vast job and travel prospects the EU offered them suddenly drying up, and they described how they felt their worlds would get a lot smaller. Rothwell worried about her future medical licensure, and whether she’d be able to move around as freely as she had hoped.

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You do see it, don’t you? Other people’s money (OPM) flowing into all hands in a sophisticated Bread and Circuses shell game, where each person is convinced they are defying reality by living at someone else’s expense, and could not imagine getting by otherwise. Euphemisms abound, like betrayal, prospects, and opportunity.

LOL.

farage

The handwringing is perhaps what puts me in a state of LITERALLY CRYING [with laughter] the most.

https://youtu.be/WfVcvyxLj-s

…And there’s nobody better at being “concerned” than ‘ole George Takei.

I cannot begin to fathom what the greater and likely dire consequences of this shall be. ‪#‎BrexistentialThreat‬

Of course you can’t, George. You’re a regurgitator in service of The Narrative, and this wasn’t in the script. With any luck…

remainia

…I’m just wondering what the better hashtag would be for the movement for the U.S. to leave the UN.

  • #Amerecant
  • uSexit

I’m troubled and can’t begin to fathom which is better. Any ideas?

It’s important to understand what this is, and what it’s not. The gloom and doom over economics, markets, trade, uncertainty, lost “opportunities” and “prospects”  will persist.

Brexit’s consequences, according to an expert: “clusterfuck”

The UK’s vote to leave the European Union has totally stunned the world. Almost no experts saw this coming, and professional foreign policy watchers appear to be in a state of panic. Not because they blew the call, but because the Brexit seemed too scary to actually happen.

To understand why so many experts are now so anxious, I spoke to Dan Drezner, a professor at Tufts University’s Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy and an expert on the global economic and political system. He explained that the UK’s “Leave” decision totally upended the way the world is supposed to work — and potentially created avenues for real chaos.

“This, globally, is the equivalent of Trump getting the GOP nomination,” Drezner told me. “Everyone thought the way the world works was a certain direction, or that there were certain rules of thumb. Those rules of thumb are now being thrown out the window.”

And this, he argues, is very, very scary.

That goes into my The Onion Get’s Scooped Again file.

But some have a fundamental understanding of what this is really all about, ideologically and symbolically.

This was the day the British people defied their jailers

There were two referendums on Thursday. The first was on membership of the EU. The second was on the British establishment. Leave won both, and the world will never be the same again.

It’s impossible to overstate how remarkable this victory is. Twenty years ago, Euroscepticism was a backbench Tory rebellion and a political cult. It was a dispute located firmly on the Right with little appeal to Labour voters. It took Ukip to drag it into the centre of political life – given momentum by the issue of immigration – and slowly it has emerged as a lightning rod for anti-establishment activism. […]

But this time the establishment consensus coincided with a historic loss of faith in the experts. These were the people who failed to predict the Credit Crunch, who missed the greatest economic disaster to hit us since the Great Depression. And we were supposed to believe them? Slowly the consensus came to resemble not just a conspiracy but, worse, a confederacy of dunces. […]

…People wanted to have their say and they did. Up and down the country they defied the experts and went with their conscience.

And…

Brexit: Why The Globalists Lost

There’s panic in the skyscrapers. A popular revolution against globalism is underway, and Britain has struck the first blow.

To the dismay of political, financial, and media elites, the country has chosen to put identity and sovereignty above a plus-one-or-minus-one change in GDP, and vote to leave the hated European Union. As with the USSR, the attempt to superimpose a manufactured civic identity over proud nation-states with rich and complex histories has run against the grain of human nature. The elites, so wrapped up in statecraft and economics, never paused to consider basic human psychology.

It’s not just Britain, you see. The revolution against globalism is, well, global. Britain may be leading the charge, but insurgents and rebels from D.C to Berlin are also hard at work tormenting their elitist overlords. Fired up by Britain’s example, eurosceptics across the continent are now demanding their own referendums. It’s a Berlin Wall moment.

The unelectable and unaccountable bureaucrats in Brussels must be pissing themselves right now. They are losing one of the biggest crutches for a fragile alliance of countries that can’t pay their bills. (Fortunately, they still have the power to unilaterally grant themselves a monthly budget of 2,000 euros for trouser cleaning.)

There’s a conflation between this “Euro Identity” represented by the EU political entity and what it means to be a European. For example, I’m a “Nevadan,” born the son of a German immigrant. But I’ve never confused what it means to be an American with being a subject of the United [Federation of] States.

I’ve never called myself a “United Statesan.” I call myself an American and to be perfectly clear, I consider The Declaration of Independence to be the founding document of America. The U.S. with its Constitution is merely a political overlay that has little to do with my sense of culture and identity.

Europeans ought to think in similar terms.

So What Now, Britain?

Britain’s historic decision to leave the European Union represents a blow for political centralization. However, it’s also a sobering reminder that the work of advancing peace and economic freedom is never done. Britain may be extricating itself from EU political control, but if its goal is genuine progress and prosperity, it will need to do much more than simply sever its ties with Brussels.

What Britain needs most is a return to the ideals of peace and free trade exemplified in the work of Richard Cobden and other 19th-century liberals. Sadly, this philosophy was entirely absent from the rhetoric of the Leave campaign, which was more often motivated by the same protectionist fallacies the classical liberals so effectively demolished. And although it’s uncertain what economic policies Britain will adopt in the next few years, it seems unlikely that protectionist rhetoric will disappear, or that many Brexit supporters will spontaneously abandon their faulty economic reasoning.

On the contrary, it is likely that Brexit, despite its positive effects, will also produce a rise in illiberal sentiment in Britain and in Europe. For example, it’s practically a given that every economic problem occurring in the near future will be attributed to Brexit. Yet this only means it’s more important than ever to stress that leaving the EU is not equivalent to becoming liberal; instead, it’s only one part of that process. Consequently, liberal ideas cannot be held accountable if a more decentralized Britain uses its newfound independence to adopt trade restrictions and other nationalist policies.

Without winning the battle of ideas, the gains from leaving the EU will amount to very little. In this battle, Brexit is not so much a victory as an opportunity. And as Joseph Salerno argues, we must seize every available opportunity to reduce the state and expand the free society. The only way forward for Britain is to adopt a program of economic liberalism. Brexit offers a chance to once again spread those long-neglected ideals of peace and free trade from which all human progress derives.

Yep, follow-through is necessary. It’s important to recognize what this means ideologically just as much as what it means in practical financial, trade, immigration, etc. terms.

This is still collectivism—just as the American Revolution and its follow-on Constitution were collectivism. America began its ideological decline not long after the ink was dry on the Declaration of Independence.

I have been championing minorities for more than two decades, undercutting most all who believe they do the same.

I champion the irreducible minority, never the contrived collective one. My minority is irreducible, inviolable qua entity, and the trump card always.

I champion The Individual and uphold their natural right and freedom to associate with anyone they like—or disassociate from anyone they dislike—in the human animal jungle of value diversity.

I’m for the smallest minority you can get. So there’s still a lot of “leaving” that needs to take place. By my count at this writing, about 7.4 billion #iExit Referendums ought to do it.

Richard Nikoley

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54 Comments

  1. GTR on June 25, 2016 at 13:44

    A major part of the reasons for Brexit is a strong anti-freedom sentiment among many English people, especialy those with lower education. EU is based on granting freedom of movement of employment. This is a very important, positive feature of the EU, because an usual international trade deal eagerly grants freedom movement, but only to the capital, while people are like imprisoned in their little countries. So when a capital leaves a particular country, the labor is left with nothing: no jobs locally, and no way to move with the capital. That’s even if the capital was willing to keep the current employees by relocating them!

    The English are egoists, they don’t care about others having freedoms. They joined EU when the Continental Europe was doing exceptionally well, while they were only so-so. So that they coult exploit the good economics of Europe for their benefits. They were so eager to join, even if not wecomed – including 2 vetos by the French. For a normal moral person it would be a payback time, now when they have a somewhat better job situation than the continental Europe. But instead the egoistic English divided the world into Us and Them, and started a propaganda of Them stealing “Our” jobs. Even up to the nonsense of interpreting a job created by a branch of some American company that wants to hire people from Continental EU as being an English job…

    So the English wanted to keep the freedom of job movement for like 40+ years, when it was beneficial for them, while now when the price of this has shown – they want to abandon it. This is not how one should treat fundamental values! They should be supported permanently, including writting them in an important document like a constitution. English are so value-less that they don’t even hava a constitution: just change the law opportunistically.

    I suspect English, because of their egoism, and separating themselves have no ability to forming long-term reciprocial relationships with other nations. Which may be the reason why they lost their empire. Long lasting empires are based on common identity, and they really push for it. Like Russia indoctrinating Siberian natives that they are really just Russians, the US gathering all people under American identity, even though they come form very different backgrounds, even ancient empires had to do so – like Rome finally giving Roman citizenship to all free people in the entire empire in 212. English used Divide and Conquer method to acquire an empire, but then shot themselves in the foot using exactly the same method – by dividing themselves away fromt he rest of the Empire, keeping their old English identity (Us – English vs. Them – rest of the Empire), rather than creating a new, common one. And yes, getting a new identity would mean no local English egoism, but rather caring for the all under the new, wider identity.

    Lately they were offered an European identity. That even somehow makes more sense than the potential imperial one – genetics, look, religions and so on of English are a close match for the northern part of the EU. But they again failed to embrace it and instead started whining about Them taking away “Our” jobs….

    • Richard Nikoley on June 25, 2016 at 14:13

      So what’s your point?

      That people change their minds? That people can be inconsistent? That people sometimes go about doing things in ways that may not be optimal?

      What?

      Absolutely none of this has anything to do with the deeper moral issue–that they have the right to one less layer of governemnt and are a bit freer to make their mistakes and errors, have one less layer to fall back on, and perhaps learn hard knocks sooner, more permanently, and pass the lessons onto children.

      Some people come to a point where a peel back of one layer of onion-illusion is just worth doing, cards fall where they may.

    • GTR on June 25, 2016 at 16:12

      There are multpipe points, but not these that you have mentioned.

      1) Major resons for Brexit. Not much to do with philosphy or libertarianism. More to do with simple egoism. For example one of the main points of Brexit camp was that not paying to the EU could give additional money to fund for a socialized medicine (NHS). While those 75-year-olds voted Brexit because the legal EU immigratns (not Muslims, or illegals) were blamed for the fact that the queues to the NHS services are long. Basically they want more socialism, and the promise was that not paying to the EU or preventing those without voting powers from getting social services would leave more and higher quality social services to those with voting powers.
      Same with jobs. People in middle age voted for a government intervention, that is they wanted the governement to basically get rid of non-citizen employees, even though that there was a reciprocial will: corporations residing in the UK want to hire them, and they want to work for those corporations. A government intervention forcing private corporations to hire otherwise undesirable people.
      There are also other issues that were blamed on legal immigrants like high prices of houses.
      This whole Brexit is mostly an excercise to get rid of legal immigratns, and capture spoils of such victory (social services, jobs) which is impossible without leaving the EU, as the rules of EU are pro-freedom, they grant freedom of movement for the labor.
      I’ve also noticed that there’s no other major conflict between English and the legal EU immigrants: these are not people wanting to kill infidels, or an enemy nation – in fact most belong to the nations allied in NATO or are neutral. There’s no racial tension – same European race. Not much language barrier – English is well known. Not even legal issues – all are there via EU deals.

      2) Freedom of movement of labor as a fundamental value. I think I explained it well. Capital (including jobs) is now free to move (based on other deals than EU, like WTO etc.), and none is going to be ever asked in a referendum to prevent it. But in most cases (incuding WTO) labor is not allowed to move with the capital. Which may lead even to survival problems: what if most jobs move out of a country X, but its citizens cannot move out? EU is the on the moral side here, because it grants freedom of movement of labor for all EU citizens.
      Brexit on the other hand is an attempt to destroy the freedom of movement of labor in order to exploit the fact that currently job prospects in the UE are better than on the continent for the advantage of those with voting powers. It is at the expense of those without voting powers in the UK (egoism), and at the long term risk to the young people. Young people risk that if the capital moves out of the UK (which may be caused by the Brexit itself), they won’t be able to search jobs in other countries because of the lack of freedom of movement. 55-year-olds or odlers risk a little, as the local economy is still going to work 10 or so years.

      So Brexit is like a rejection of a basic value of freedom of movement of labor in order to gain some additional money, better job position and so on, at the expense of others (better qualifiied legal EU immigrants, and corporations forced to hire less desirable locals). At the long term expanse of young local people too – as corporations are likely to move out in search for better access to labor, and leave the young with no tax base, no jobs and so on. Egoistic 55-year-olds English could care less…
      Of course you don’t want to have freedm of movement from the enemy nation, or of people with dangerous ideologies, or people with high crimes. But the intra EU movement is like an ideal one, as described at the end of point 1.

      3) Identity building as a basis for stable large entities. Examples of Russia, Rome, US are in the original post. Europe is so similar – genetically, by actual origins, by a shared common history, shared culture, persistent contacts and so on. Keeping multiple identities, rather than a single European one just doesn’t make sense. Especially if those identities lead to us vs. them conflicts. Out of them the British identity is the weakest and most nonsensical one. It’s neither a historical nation (Scott, English, Welsh, Iris are), nor an internally unified one – it’s subdivided into classes, with aristocratic titles, people being judges as better by birth and so on.
      Why are multiple tiny, but strong identities wrong, or even dangerous? As I mentioned it’s like divide-and-conquer, but on yourself. This Brexit thing is based on such an artficial divide – Us (British identity) vs. Them (wider European identity). A part of a very destrucitive process of dividing into tiny identities, and finding conficts between them (as mentioned in previosu points Brexit is an economical conflicts about access to social services and jobs, between this artificial British identity and a wider European one).

      4) I also dont’ consider what you proposed as points as valid. Eg. “That people change their minds? That people can be inconsistent? That people sometimes go about doing things in ways that may not be optimal?”. The logic of egoism explains it all:

      Egoistic generations of English (current 55+ year-olds and older) first entered the EU to exploit the fact that the economic sitution in Continental Europe was very good, with better prospect than the UK. They exploited it, but when the opposite happened – the UK got temporarily better at job creation – the egoism told them not to share it with others, but to throw the rest of the Europe out. And egoism told them that they shouldn’t be concerned about the long term risk – as this risk is somehting the younger generations are going to face. See – it’s very consistent, doesn’t involve changing their midns, and is optimal from egoistic point of view. Kind of what you’d expect from the descendants of slave and opim traders 🙂

    • Richard Nikoley on June 25, 2016 at 17:38

      I don’t know what you want from me, GTR.

      In how many more ways can I tell you I don’t give a runny shit or wasted fuck about a single one of your “concerns” in this matter?

      I do not care, think of that however you wish and give me one more thing to not care about.

    • cremes on June 26, 2016 at 05:42

      The older generation of Brits who voted to leave are the same ones who were so excited to join decades ago. They have learned from their mistake and changed their mind. Egoism? Sure, why not. They voted for their current best self interest.

      The best part is all of the “literally crying” young folks who don’t know anything about life under the earlier system. All they have known is life under the EU. Perhaps they should listen to the older generations who can compare life before the EU to life after the EU and found that the former was better.

    • GTR on June 27, 2016 at 13:31

      “The best part is all of the “literally crying” young folks who don’t know anything about life under the earlier system.” – there’s no return to the previous system. The world is unleashed, tiny thing like the UK is never again going to be as meaningful as in the past, never the one to who makes the rules while others listen. No profits from this to be had. US is still there, but outside it: China, India, EU, and if they do well – Brazil, India. Not UK. Not even natural resources to turn to profit – the oil and gas are running out, while they were plentiful in the past. Besides now UK is not even on the main transportation routes of the world – then Atlantic, now Eurasian (China – Continental Europe, eg. New Sil Road Projects).

      Past is not repeatable. UK successes of the past are attributable to the major chunk of the world being cut off from the real economy by Communism. Now the entire world is out on the market competitive with old countries.

      “They voted for their current best self interest.” – yes that’s what I was saying. Eg. the old people were persuaded by a campaign that told that the money now paid to the EU, that it redistributes on investments like roads or railways in other coutries can stay in the UK in order to be spent on socialized medicine (NHS). So the old folks can get their socialized medicine (in their best interests), then die. They don’t loose much, as the long-term risks of Brexit fall on young people.

    • Doug on June 27, 2016 at 15:51

      GTR, how did a rock with almost no natural resources become a grand city in the eyes of the world?

      ….that rock is Hong Kong

    • Richard Nikoley on June 27, 2016 at 16:20

      “UK successes of the past are attributable to the major chunk of the world being cut off from the real economy by Communism. Now the entire world is out on the market competitive with old countries.”

      Oh bullshit. The UK is and has been one of the largest participants in Foreign Direct Investment forever. They are a global powerhouse in terms of owning huge swaths of securities. In truth, they are still very much an empire—a financial empire. It’s just hidden from concrete-bound mentalities who only see such things in terms of “natural resources,” plantations, colonies, slaves.

      In fact, the UK has a half trillion in FDI in the just the US alone, the top spot, with Japan next at a third of a trillion. Note, I am not talking about government debt, but even so, UK, last I checked, held about a quater of a trillion in US Treasuries.

      ….What in the world is the UK going to do without Greece and the other money flushers of the UK?

    • cremes on June 27, 2016 at 19:02

      GTR says: “there’s no return to the previous system.”

      You say that like it supports your argument. It’s orthogonal to the argument. I am arguing that the oldsters believe the NEW SYSTEM is shite. They had no success in improving it (Brussels doesn’t listen), so their only option was to kill it dead.

      “Eg. the old people were persuaded by a campaign that told that the money now paid to the EU, that it redistributes on investments like roads or railways in other coutries can stay in the UK in order to be spent on socialized medicine (NHS).”

      How dare those tax payers demand that their money stay locally. Don’t they know that it’s their duty to support the French and the Germans and the Greeks?

      Anyway, the fear campaign runs both ways. You are spreading fear here by saying this will be disastrous for the younger generation. Why should we believe your particular fear campaign? Why are you right and they are wrong?

    • GTR on June 28, 2016 at 11:59

      @Doug – Hong Kong acted like a gateway between China and the West, profiting from it. Today UK and Ireland are gateways between US and EU. By leaving EU the status of gateway can may be lost by the UK, as a gateway has to be well connected to both.

    • GTR on June 28, 2016 at 13:37

      @Richard – you are writing about “Foreign Direct Investment”, “securities and “financial empire”. Do you realize that Brexit is based on an explicit rejection of such kind of thinking in terms of macroeconomic names, values and indicators in favor of thinking in terms of basic needs of a normal person: a stable job, affordable housing, access to decent health and education services. Macroeconomics is a Cameron side, he is great at that! Increasing GDP and so on. Brexit side admitted this, but convinced voters it’s not what should be discussed.

      They (Brexiters) noticed that such practical, everyday issues are important, and used this to scapegoat legal immigration from the EU for them. Easy target to blame – people who can’t vote, and have not much power to strike back. This succeeded.

      But in a sense it is the success of financial investors plus the competition from the global economy (WTO, China) that makes living of a normal person in the UK more difficult. A person like a factory worker is forced to compete on price of his job with a person from a third world, who has third-world costs, while at the same time having prices that are adjusted based on the purchasing power those from the financial sector. Like no wage rises, but 4.5% per year increase in house prices. And the govnerment is happy with such rises in prices – investors are coming, buying a lot of property and bringing in money, GDP is UP, how great!

      Have you even listened to the arguments?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKIUk9ckqHU

      Basically a lot of talking about the sharp contrasts between the interests of the elites – , and “everybody else, ordinary people” (3:12). At 4:15 he explicitly rejects the value of GDP “But I put it to you this morning that actually this is about more than money, that we should measure our contry, that we should measure our quality of life, we should measure things not just in terms of GDP figures. The Chancellor will tell you that because our GDP is increasing every year that’s wonderful […] And I say to you that there are more things in life that matter more than just looking at money. (applause). What matters to people is their quality of life” and then he goes on about the access to primary schools, about the length of queues to the socialized medicine doctors, declining living standards on average wage, affordability of housing.

      See Richard – you are talking in the language of the elites! (FDI, securitiesand so on. That “ordinary people” (voters) don’t listen to, don’t care about, and don’t measure success with. A paradigm change in the language of politics (including the meaning of words) has happened, and you are on the side of the old guard like Cameron.

      So you can read the statement again ““UK successes of the past are attributable to the major chunk of the world being cut off from the real economy by Communism. Now the entire world is out on the market competitive with old countries.” using the contemporary meaning of words like “success”.

      In this context Brexit is a scam, because leaving EU won’t eliminate the competition. Financial investors (speculators) are still going to drive prices of housing up, the competition from abroad is still going to price its products and services based on its local, low prices of everything, while WTO is going to force to accept them on the UK market. And if the UK was so fragile that 1.75 million additonal people (3 millions non-british EU citizens in the UK minus 1.25 million Britons in the rest of the EU) cause it to fail then should reconsider being a contry, that’s too tough for it 🙂 For comparison – a tiny Lebanon has more than a million of actual refugees, Turkey has like over 2 millions. According to Wikipedia “As of 2014, about 16.3 million people with an immigrant background were living in Germany”.

    • GTR on June 28, 2016 at 13:42

      @cremes – If “there’s no return to the previous system.” and “the NEW SYSTEM is shite”, and they gave up on the new system – what are they left with?

    • Diane Hohl on July 3, 2016 at 09:42

      It’s about self preservation, and the fact that people are waking up to THIS:

      EU Intentionally Collapsing European Countries With Illegals

      look up THE KALERGI PLAN— been around for a long time….

      Here’s the big picture:
      [link to http://www.freerepublic.com]

  2. ramon on June 25, 2016 at 16:40

    I am woefully ignorant of the “real” issues surrounding the Brexit. I guess I have some reading to do.

    I woke up early on my day off knowing the markets would be in turmoil with all the drama. After the Dow fell 500 points I looked at my list of trade candidates (company being beat up more by emotion than value), and I made a nice trade.

    the after math of the “horrible market day” is still crap. market was that low in May and April and they act like it is an “economic upheaval, when actually the market bet against the Brexit with decent highs up till Thursday at close.

    • Richard Nikoley on June 25, 2016 at 17:36

      Indeed. Everyone is bemoaning the pound. So go buy pounds if you think the market oversold them. Put some $$$ behind your jaw flapping or shut the fuck up.

      People do not understand markets, particularly the rough & tumble ones like bonds, equities, and arbitrage.

    • thhq on June 27, 2016 at 09:16

      The stock markets move on a hair trigger. Modern investors are like tweakers, jittery on debt instead of meth. IMO it’s due to the steady decapitalization of western economies. The monetary systems are backed by promise-to-pay debt rather than capital assets.

  3. Bret on June 26, 2016 at 01:06

    I’m loving this whole frenzy. I’m proud of the Brits (the old ones at least, not these dumb shit post teens who still live with their parents), and I love watching stupid progressives torment themselves with their own ignorant emotional indignation. Here’s hoping more will follow.

    “People do not understand markets.”

    You’re not kidding. It would be embarrassing if it wasn’t so pandemic & hilarious.

    • pzo on June 27, 2016 at 18:25

      The “experts” don’t understand markets. They are emotional as any teenager.

      I remember when I was twelve or thirteen, and Wall Street shuffed a lot of value when it was announced that President Eisenhower was going in for heart surgery. As young, stupid, and naive as I was, I thought that’s pretty childish. What? The union will be taken over by the Commies if he dies?

      If I knew the methods, I’d be buying pounds today. Five years from now, it will be a different political and economic world. But, the pound will survive and recover.

  4. LaFrite on June 26, 2016 at 02:14

    These tweets are ridiculous. What the fuck are they crying about ? Because the country decided to get rid of a layer of vassalage ???!! Da fuck! The younger generation is totally screwed if they’re crying for having their chains removed. On the contrary, the Brits should use this momentum to get rid of other useless and parasitic layers, such as the royal family. Get rid of them you idiots!

    • Richard Nikoley on June 26, 2016 at 07:32

      That is exactly THE POINT, La Frite.

      Stockholm Syndrome run amok.

    • GTR on June 27, 2016 at 11:49

      “Because the country decided to get rid of a layer of vassalage?”. For many people “their country” may as well be European Union. They were born in EU, lived in the EU their entire lives. And even lived very well under those EU laws or EU bureaucracy. Their laws, their bureaucracy, their identity; however good/bad they are.

      What happens with this referendum is that such people are gettig “their country” taken away from them. That’s very sad. It’s like identifying youself as an American, and one day being forced to become just an Alabamian.

    • Richard Nikoley on June 27, 2016 at 11:55

      Oh what a fucking LOL.

    • LaFrite on June 27, 2016 at 13:04

      @GTR
      Makes 0 sense. Re-read yourself, you can’t be serious.

    • thhq1 on June 29, 2016 at 19:22

      The Brexit chicken-little effect is wearing off fast as reality sets in.

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-29/brexiteers-1-0-scaremongers-uk-stocks-erase-all-brexit-losses

      I read this interesting piece today by the English Democrats.

      Their three reasons are succinct: devolution, immigration and the payments to the EU. Reading these I can see why devolution is the top reason. The EU is balkanizing the UK. They want to continue, and break England itself into 9 regions.

    • James on June 29, 2016 at 10:38

      @GTR Well I for one identify as a Texan first then as an American 🙂
      So no loss there

    • Raymonde Ricot Piette on July 1, 2016 at 06:04

      LaFrite said: ‘… the Brits should use this momentum to get rid of other useless and parasitic layers, such as the royal family.’
      I wish our politicians in France were more like the royal family in Britain, i.e., doing nothing !
      They cost us as much as royals but they do so much more damage to the country, and no hope there of getting rid of them !

    • thhq on July 1, 2016 at 08:43

      La verite! The complexity of French politics engendered by a 5 party system ensured lots of meetings and not much useful activity when I lived there in 2000. It was a comfortable world for bureaucrats and career politicians. I was on 2 EEC-funded studies while I was there, as an R&D representative of a paper company. The meetings were dominated by academia (in some cases whole families on the payroll) and government economic analysts. After spending through a million euros, we received about 50 grams of a greenish protein extract from colza (rapeseed, or canola) to test as a paper coating binder. It didn’t work as well as starch. The meeting in Munich was memorable only for Oktoberfest…great timing…

  5. Ellie Riley on June 26, 2016 at 10:36

    Good article Richard. I voted out because I want to live in a democracy – that is I want to live in a place where if the people don’t like the government we can sack it. I felt that the EU is just too distant and undemocratic and it would be fiendishly difficult to remove a dodgy EU government.. I may take a financial hit but so be it. There are things which are more important than money.

    I also note that many countries which have joined the EU have had profoundly dictatorial tendencies in the not too distant past – I don’t feel safe linking our political lot in with these countries.

    Immigration was not my top concern but it is undoubtedly true that Britain is too small geographically to sustain an influx of 350,000 new residents annually – we don’t have enough houses, roads, schools, hospitals and space. We are losing social cohesion too because there are too many new arrivals who don’t share our culture.

    • GTR on June 27, 2016 at 12:09

      @Ellie – thanks to Brexit and lowering on immigration from the EU you gave UK a future of becoming a muslim + black state. Leaving UK with its own demographics alone guarantees this. Look at the numbers:

      Total Fertility rate (children per woman) in the UK by the country of origin of a mother in 2011:

      http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105160709/http://ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/fertility-analysis/childbearing-of-uk-and-non-uk-born-women-living-in-the-uk/2011-census-data/info-mother-s-country-of-birth.html

      Somalia – 4.19
      Pakistan – 3.82
      Nigeria – 3.32
      Bangladesh – 3.25

      Immigration from the EU is the factor that keeps UK the way it has been – a white country with European culture. At the cost of overcrowding. When you stop immigration the demographics takes over.

    • Bret on June 27, 2016 at 12:58

      GTR, what’s with the endless EU propaganda & sales pitches? Is your father a mid-level EU bureaucrat or something?

    • thhq1 on June 27, 2016 at 13:52

      GTR I saw this strain of Euroracism when I lived in France. Coming through immigration at CDG, seeing French Africans held up like they were in some dog pound. Then seeing the banlieues where they were consigned to live, under- and un- employed, in digs as rough as Cabrini Green ever was. Then having my daughter taught from textbooks showing the USA as a place where the Ku Klux Klan lynches blacks.

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but won’t the Brexit be opening up more places for Commonwealth immigrants?

  6. Bacchal on June 26, 2016 at 18:27

    “I’m just wondering what the better hashtag would be for the movement for the U.S. to leave the UN.”

    How about USAyonara, bitches?

    My favorite response over the Brexit comes from good ol’ Thom Yorke of Radiohead and their wonder-producer, Nigel Godrich. They’ve started a petition for a second vote: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215. I guess democracy is only valid when it follows their preferred outcome. They ought to be delighted. Now they have topical fodder to bloviate about over another album of boring music that’s sure to keep them pampered and pockets lined.

  7. Colleen on June 27, 2016 at 09:17

    I might have to get on twitter to support the US leaving the UN. One of the funniest aspects is that Scotland, who voted down leaving the UK last year (or so), voted against Brexit. Maybe they will have another independence referendum, leave the UK and then rejoin the EU? Meanwhile, some in TX talking about TEXit.

  8. BigRob on June 27, 2016 at 10:00

    I read a book about six months ago called “The Accidental Superpower” by Peter Zeihan. He predicted almost all of this was going to happen when he wrote the book.

    “Near the end of the Second World War, the United States made a bold strategic gambit that rewired the international system. Empires were abolished and replaced by a global arrangement enforced by the U.S. Navy. With all the world’s oceans safe for the first time in history, markets and resources were made available for everyone. Enemies became partners”

    After you read his book, it makes complete sense while this will not last. It is very much in line with what is happening and really makes you think.

    –Big Rob

  9. pzo on June 27, 2016 at 18:50

    1914, hello again.

    Despite all the over-bureaucratic regulations and other perhaps legitimate complaints about the EU, the success of the ECC and subsequent EU is a bonding that pretty much negated the possibility of all those petty wars that have rocked Europe ever since the Romans retreated.

    And there is the matter that the Leave folks didn’t have even the slightest plan of how to do it. Reminds me of our military invading Iraq and their binder, their manual, had no instructions what to do after gaining military superiority. What museums?

    This benefit of comingling should not be dismissed lightly.

    I’ve listened to Remain and Leave arguments for months. I can understand both. But no one has said, “We’ve got some problems here. Can we correct them? Compromise?” I find it particularly disturbing that it is the old guard that voted for brexit while it is their children and grandchildren who will pay a price. A big one.

    Prediction, 2036: Brits vote to rejoin the EU. If Europe hasn’t devolved into those old politics. Hello, 1914.

    A few years ago when Texas governor Rick Perry was talking secession (“how’d work out for you the last time?”) NPR did a tongue in cheek audio skit as if it had happened. Kinky Friedman was the new Secretary of State, and his goal was to export “big hair.” Ordinary citizens were bemoaning how hard it was to go to New Orleans, border checks both ways. Communities near major military installations like San Antonio, were sucking economic air. No more Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, military, postal, etc. subsidies flowing into Texas.

    Watch out what you ask for, you might get it.

    • Richard Nikoley on June 28, 2016 at 08:28

      NPR skit? Isn’t it always so?

  10. LaFrite on June 28, 2016 at 08:56

    As usual, Thierry Meyssan (of voltairenet fame) has an interesting view on things :

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article192607.html

  11. Woodchuck Pirate on June 28, 2016 at 17:16

    GTR,

    Apparently you didn’t get the memo:

    Anarcho-Capitalism Or Else.

    Everybody has always had the “else” and still has it now. Statism is truly dead, you cling to your cognitive dissonance trying to deny you have a fence post up your ass. Prison within a prison is still prison. You sold yer ass, cock and balls to the EU insisting to be paid to live on your knees, refusing to die on your feet. Now yer whining and offering complaints from yer knees about the money being no good. You got nothing in your marketing plan but pride in being system slave. Get off your knees. It’s no wonder Trump pisses on people like you, you demand it.

    Woodchuck Pirate
    aka Raymond J Raupers Jr USA

    • GTR on June 29, 2016 at 11:41

      Brexit vote was not pro-anarchy, it was about control. Not a rejection of state control (necessary for anarchy), but a confirmation of will to have control, just that it shouldn’t be in Brussels, but in London. In fact the main slogan was “Take back control!” – how is that an anarchy? Control over money, control over standards, control over borders and so on. They didn’t want EU to give them more money than they put in (economic gain), but wanted to have control over the money.

      One of the few aspect of EU that are close to the ideals of anarchy is the free movement of people. And it is exactly its existance that infuriated and scared Brexiers the most. They panicked over people “flooding in” and demanded government control over the process. The ideal put by the Brexit leaders was a sytem in which there is a bureauracy that decides who can get in: applicants write application with details about themselves and the bureaucrats assign points based on such contents, according to the rules. Only such thing satisfied Brexiters zeal for control.

      Eg. Boris Johnson

      “We have absolutely no way of impeding huge numbers of people coming from the other EU countries in a way that we cannot control. IT’S CONTROL THAT MATTERS.”.

      So the messae is that control freask want to strictly control Britain, and that they have a popular support for this.

    • Richard Nikoley on June 30, 2016 at 13:17

      More bullshit.

      Shorter version: shit is totally out of control, destroying Western and to some extend Enlightenment culture and community with an influx of 7th century dirt scratching savages, and how DARE you use the available means to reign things in.

      I really hate heads I win, tails you lose bullshit arguments.

    • GTR on July 1, 2016 at 13:49

      “with an influx of 7th century dirt scratching savages” – why do you call Estonians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Poles, Hungarians, Czechs and Slovaks this way? One of the major reasons for Brexit is voters wanting government to protect them from the competition on the job market from people from exacty these countries. Haven’t you watch the link I shared? It is from the main proponent of Brexit (who has some French ancestry and a German wife) and it contains the following explaination of whom Britsh are afraid of:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKIUk9ckqHU

      First he praises the immigration system before 2004 (that’s when most Pakistanis came in, by UK’s own will, no EU interference whatsoever). Then at (1:56) he says “But all that changed in 2004 with the admission of 8 and then 10 former communist countries.”, “what it did was it opened the doors, opened the doors to the kind of migration to this country that we have never seen before” – then he scaremogners this thing with vague words like turning communities upside down, opening a great divide and other non-concrete, but scary phrases. So Brexit is about preventing the immigration of white, mostly Christian (or atheist like Czechs), but just poorer people into the UK.

      Two eample articles with the same message. Construction is simple – first they show that people from Central to Eastern Europe are getting hired in the UK, but written in a way as to scary the reader (propagana), then a the bottom they suggest a solution – leavigh the EU.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2852931/How-hiring-thousands-cheap-Eastern-European-workers-staff-warehouse-area-200-000-dole.html

      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/12/british-workers-losing-out-as-employers-advertise-for-polish-and-romanian-speaking-cleaners-factory-workers/

      You may wonder – what happened that the local employees actually PREFER to hire Central-Eastern Europeans rather than locals? Some part of it is about price. But it is also about performance. From the opinions I’ve read the consensus is that immigrants from Central/Eastern Europe are faster, that is able to do more per the same time. And at the lower per-hour wage, as mentioned before. That was not the case with Pakistanis (who are non-EU migration), as English are able to outcompete them for jobs.

      Local English worker population has been soundly defeated, so they turned to the government for protection. In the form of eliminating superior copetition by the ban on immigration from Central/Eastern Europe. Their government tried to negotiate this with the EU, which was a diplomatic gaffe, as for the EU freedom of labor movement is a sacred value, similar to what freedom of speach is in the US. So what was left was leaving out. After leaving out there are going to be Catch-22 bureaucratic proceures put for those competitive people who are wanted by the UK companies, eg:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDlAAEmRRGE

      That’s the essence of Brexit.

      • Richard Nikoley on July 1, 2016 at 14:08

        Shorter GTR: Utterly full of shit.

        They wanted to leave. They’re leaving.

        Now, you’ve had your time and more than enough say. This was your last post. Every single additional one in this thread will be summarily deleted without reading.



    • James on July 5, 2016 at 07:42

      Hah, I understand why you will summarily delete each of GTR’s new posts but I was really enjoying you thrash him about. I was in Ireland a year ago and almost every employee of gift shop , restaurant, etc on the east coast was from a slavic nation.(As a side note I could hardly understand them ) It’s not just the “they’re taking our jobs” it’s the whole cultural aspect as well. The cultural “melting pot” ideal only works if it’s gradual and the new people assimilate while bringing aspects of their own culture. It doesn’t work when they form enclaves that are all but separate from the nation that they are populating. The same happens here in Texas with, what is the proper progressive title now? Undocumented immigrants?

      Additionally I did notice a funny thing in what GTR was saying. He was bemoaning the English workers trying to protect their jobs from cheaper/better labor. I bet he is also the type that wholeheartedly supports labor unions and the protectionist laws in many states that force you to hire union workers here in the US. You can’t have it both ways.

  12. James on June 29, 2016 at 09:41

    Awesome
    I just found your blog Richard. I love the back and forth comments between you and GTR.
    From my small sample of people I know in Britain it was actually the regulations on tea kettles that broke the proverbial camel’s back for them. When bureaucrats that don’t represent you start telling you what to do within your own home I imagine you can get a bit rebellious.

    • Ellie Riley on July 3, 2016 at 11:08

      Yes, telling us what kind of hairdryers and hoovers we can or can’t have. Outrageous stuff! Trivial in itself but symbolic of a deeply authoritarian tendency at the heart of the EU. Very scary. I voted out for the sake of the next generation – against my own financial best interests.

  13. Woodchuck Pirate on June 29, 2016 at 15:37

    GTR,

    I made no comment suggesting Brexit vote was pro-anarchy. It was democracy and you hate it because your entitlement mentality is less satisfied with less of someone else’s money. Your posts on this matter are pure sophistry, devoid of valid philosophy.

    The mixed economy model exists solely to farm up corruption fertilized with moral hazard. What you take will be paid for, and he that comes into equity must come to court with clean hands. Your insistent whining for a larger share of the stolen loot can be your epitaph, I don’t care.

    No self respecting anarchist will lift a finger to impede the cannibalism of socialist versus socialist. The 0.01% of humans that demand real freedom enjoy watching the weakest of scum devoured. Your sociopathic relationship with state is 100% your choice. Choke on it.

    Woodchuck Pirate
    aka Raymond J Raupers Jr USA

    • Richard Nikoley on June 29, 2016 at 17:13

      “No self respecting anarchist will lift a finger to impede the cannibalism of socialist versus socialist.”

      Why I grew weary of GTR long ago. He wrings hands, I clap hands.

  14. Woodchuck Pirate on June 29, 2016 at 17:20

    Richard,

    GTR displays how an aversion to principle releases a menace of pragmatism. His ilk would pick the bones from you. Pure egoism. The walking dead.

    Enjoy yer evening!

    Woodchuck Pirate
    aka Raymond J Raupers Jr USA

    • Richard Nikoley on June 29, 2016 at 21:57

      I know, Raymond.

      You must have noticed that early on I told him I didn’t give a fuck about his machinist, economist, physicist, mathematician, historian, masseuse hand wringing.

      People said “we don’t want them having a say in our affairs anymore.”

      Final.

      What people like GTR do is try to convince you of either what a dire mistake they made, what they have to loose, and so on.

      People like that have no understanding of essential essence, of being, of what humanity really is.

      We are social beings. But still animals. So that means, social, but on each and every individual’s exclusive terms.

  15. Woodchuck Pirate on June 30, 2016 at 10:31

    Richard,

    The fact that GTR comes to your blog “Free The Animal” to pontificate his entitlement mentality reveals the depth of his deceit. I suspect he is a parasitic student come to your domain to display his topic points, intending to gather the rebuttals and plagiarize them as his own work. It’s standard procedure for the parasitic collectivists, reinforced by indoctrination. Higher education can’t get any lower because there’s no such thing as “corrupting the youth” once they’ve already been excreted from public high school.

    The greatest irony is the drones have no perception of what a tax farm is. They have nothing but faith between their own neck and the slaughter house. It’s a beautiful sight to finally see their madness paraded having abandoned any conscious perception of opportunity cost. Who’s first to the guillotines? Killing the masses is the elitist chant, parroted by GTR.

    There will never be a better time to be alive than right here, right now.

    https://youtu.be/qWP4bnPkteg

    Woodchuck Pirate
    aka Raymond J Raupers Jr USA

  16. […] was a short speech given to the Oxford Union shortly before the #Brexit referendum, by a guy looking to be voted out of his […]

  17. thhq on July 3, 2016 at 11:27

    Here’s an elegy to one of the great Progressive saints. The beloved Hugo.

    http://www.salon.com/2013/03/06/hugo_chavezs_economic_miracle/

    You have to overlook recent developments in Venezuela to properly appreciate the man. As Sirota points out, overlooking a certain amount of thuggery in the name of Progressivism is no vice.

    • Richard Nikoley on July 3, 2016 at 11:53

      Ha, what a laf to read that now. Leftists. LOL.

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